Dudesbig said:
Thanks bro. Your information is well appreciated. I read up alot about AAS and cant seem to know everything about it. Im picking up Anabolics 2004 book asap. Now what I need to know is from what I listed up there in the first post. What should I take and how much. Im definately gunna look into a trainer. ANy more info would be great.
Ok... well... from what I read in your first post... I would do a tren+winny+clen combo... if you could get ahold of some t3, that would help also. Its pretty cheap and there are a lot of sources that cary it ... very inexpensive item, yet very potent... dont use it without some sort of AAS though as it can be too catabolic to LBM (lean body mass).... Ive heard that clen slightly supresses natural T3 levels so a small dose of that would help you out... and an even larger one would help you out even more...but not drasticly larger. What I would do is run a 6 week cycle ofTren and Winny both @ 1cc eod... now durring those 6 weeks also run T3 ... taper on and off!!! that is very important!!! what I do is start at half a tab (12.5mcg)(each tab is 25 mcg which is the standard... though always check to make absolutley sure) for about 3 days, then a full tab untill the end of the week. week two should be 2 tabs, week 3 should also be 2 (though you can go up to 3 if you like... after the third week taper down... so the 4th week should be 3, 5th should be 2, 6 should be 1 tab.. .you can break up the last week into two sections... for the first 4 days run 1 tab... then run half tabs until the end of the week.... for the clen, do the standard 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off... so go on it for weeks 1-2, and 4-6.. 3 and 5 should be off.
when taking clen ... if you are new to it and dont know your tolerance.. start at 1 tab and increase 1 tab each day untill you get to 6 tabs... 6 is where a lot of people end up... you are a big guy so I think you will probobly end up there too... each tab is 20mcg ... so 6 is 120mcg....
if you run tren with winny ive heard that winny has some effect as supressing trens ability to effect progesterone... you should double check that though.
I dont personaly like propinate... a lot... and i mean a lot of people do... I just happen to be one that doesnt... i dont think my body gets along with that ester too well...

... just causes the worst pain ive ever experienced and it never gets better... and this has been from sustanon and from just straight propinate. some will probobly sugest prop and winny as an alternative... also a good idea (if you can handle prop)
somthign I experimented with durring my last cutter was tossing in some DNP at week 6... I did 9 days (started on saterday and ran till next sunday)... 200mg for the first 4 days (a must!!) and then up to 400mg for the next 5 days... I got absolutley shreded... i was at 5.1% when I was tested at the end of the week (and I hadent dropped the subq water that the dnp caused me to retain)... I was also monitoring my sodium levels and sitting in the sauna for about 5-10 min at the end of my workouts... ***NOW ON THIS NOTE*** I was perfectly sure of what I was doing and was with someone that I trust (Mystik, thank you bro) and who knows everything that I do. I know how to listen to my body and knew when enough was enough... Heratic is probobly shaking his head at me, along with alot of other good bro's... But i assure you I was carefull...
now i dont recomend you do this at all... the dnp thing with teh sauna... bad idea as dnp increases your bodytemp a lot and goign into a room that is close to 200 degrees F is not where you want to be... needless to say I was in there for about 5 min each time just to drop a little water and then it was out to a cold cold shower... so dont do that dnp + sauna thing... ive been using the sauna for a long time and know when enough is enough... so I dont recomend it to people who have no experience... and especialy when they are on a drug for the first time which dehydrates you like no other...
at any rate.... adding the dnp into the cycle (the one i described above) was crazy... within a few days I could see a drastic change and by the end of my cycle I was getting compliments from all kinds of people and I must have been asked if I was getting ready for a show like 3-5 times a day (no joke)....
this is just what i thikn... the cycle will do fine without T3 and DNP... just do the clen as i described it (weeks 1-2 and 5-6) and the tren and winny as I described them...
good luck, I hope that helps...
if anyone has a problem with what ive posted then instead of jsut saying "thats stupid"... try posting a better idea... this is just what I think... and there are lots of good ideas out there... so sit, stay, and pay attention!
