Never ending PIP

[willbbig!]

I'm on my second cycle and with every single injection I get terrible PIP. ( Ive only run hammer test c and e, his reviews said little to no pip). I shower before each injection, warm the oil in the vial (hot water) and again in the barrel, I sterilize all surfaces that I might come into contact with. I clean the top of the vial with alcohol as well as injection site. I draw with an 18g and pin with a 25g. I also z track. I'm at a loss as to why i get pip that makes it difficult to walk and train. Any Ideas? Any help is appreciated.

 

[retpsd]

How many ML/CC are you injecting?

 

[willbbig!]

1.5 cc test e at the moment. I switched to the test e because its lower melting point. I use glutes and ventro sites.

 

[retpsd]

1.5 in the glutes shouldn't be an issue, I did 1 CC in the shoulder last night and I'm as right as rain today...but mine is Watson

 

[willbbig!]

Glutes should take up to 5cc ventro 3cc. It might just be the gso that's used. Idk

 

[Ultimatepip]

The problem is most likely Hammers shitty ass gear...

 

[tacevedo]

Lol not trying to defend hammer, I tried his test-e it was mediocre at best, but I pinned my quad, no pip.

 

[Joedoe]

My first cycle I listened to a friend of mine and also pinned with a 25g needle. Worst pip ever. But when I switched to a 23g needle I never had pip again. Im currently using a 22g needle. But maybe try a lower gauge if you havent before. It might help. But then again everyone is different.

I cant say for sure. But I have always assumed that because the 25g is smaller the gear was more concentrated in a smaller area. Not sure if this is correct. But for me a larger gauge worked.

 

[fastasf]

My first cycle I listened to a friend of mine and also pinned with a 25g needle. Worst pip ever. But when I switched to a 23g needle I never had pip again. Im currently using a 22g needle. But maybe try a lower gauge if you havent before. It might help. But then again everyone is different.

I cant say for sure. But I have always assumed that because the 25g is smaller the gear was more concentrated in a smaller area. Not sure if this is correct. But for me a larger gauge worked.

I pinned 3cc of prop in my left delt yesterday with a 25g and I have very very little pip today. Hammers gear is shit

 

[Joedoe]

I pinned 3cc of prop in my left delt yesterday with a 25g and I have very very little pip today. Hammers gear is shit

I have no clue about hammers gear only about what I read. I also dont buy online. And if you read my post sir it was just a suggestion. And I also said everyone is different.

I have talked to a few people and read plenty about people using a small gauge needle and getting pip and when they switch to a larger gauge needle no pip. As I said it was just a suggestion. No where in my post did I say hammers gear was good. Lol

 

[lucabratzi]

Shaky hand?

 

[johnnyrotten94]

I have no clue about hammers gear only about what I read. I also dont buy online. And if you read my post sir it was just a suggestion. And I also said everyone is different.

I have talked to a few people and read plenty about people using a small gauge needle and getting pip and when they switch to a larger gauge needle no pip. As I said it was just a suggestion. No where in my post did I say hammers gear was good. Lol

Gotta have thick skin to survive here man! Don't be so S E N S I T I V E !!!

 

[Joedoe]

Gotta have thick skin to survive here man! Don't be so S E N S I T I V E !!!

Its not about being sensitive my friend. Just stating the facts about my post so theres no confusion

 

[johnnyrotten94]

Its not about being sensitive my friend. Just stating the facts about my post so theres no confusion

Gotcha

 

[willbbig!]

Shaky hand?

Just a little shaky.

 

[fastasf]

The part about hammers gear being shit was directed at the OP. The comment about me pinning 3cc prop was directed at you. Didn't mean to confuse. With that said, if your theory were true, guys pinning with slin pins would be experiencing the most pip. However, that is not the case.

 

[willbbig!]

I ordered more from an evo source so i will pin that when arrives and compare.

 

[willbbig!]

Lol not trying to defend hammer, I tried his test-e it was mediocre at best, but I pinned my quad, no pip.

I'm scared shitless about pinning quads because my ass hurts so much. I couldn't Imagineb that pain in my quad.

 

[Joedoe]

The part about hammers gear being shit was directed at the OP. The comment about me pinning 3cc prop was directed at you. Didn't mean to confuse. With that said, if your theory were true, guys pinning with slin pins would be experiencing the most pip. However, that is not the case.

No problem on the confusion man. And I totally understand what you are saying.

But I have also met people that injected sub q and will never do it again lol me being one of those people. Also read a few people on here saying the pip is horrible. I tried it once and was the worse mistake I ever made. Dont think its a theory I believe it depends on the person.

 

[tacevedo]

I'm scared shitless about pinning quads because my ass hurts so much. I couldn't Imagineb that pain in my quad.

I got bad pip from alin's balkan, couldn't walk for a week, I feel like pinning the quad it's easier in terms of shakiness and accuracy, because I have a clear visual of what I'm doing.