New 10 week cycle

[Bork]

This is my first cycle, which I plan to start in a few weeks.

Roid Stack:

Week	Testosterone C	Dianabol
1	250mg/week	0mg
2	250mg/week	0mg
3	500mg/week	10mg/day
4	500mg/week	10mg/day
5	500mg/week	20mg/day
6	500mg/week	20mg/day
7	500mg/week	20mg/day
8	500mg/week	20mg/day
9	500mg/week	20mg/day
10	500mg/week	20mg/day
11	STOP AND WAIT	STOP AND WAIT
12	KEEP WAITING	KEEP WAITING
13	PCT	PCT
14	PCT	PCT
15	PCT	PCT
16	PCT	PCT

Daily support supplement stacks:

Supplement	Amount
Taurine	1000mg
Omega 3 Fish Oil	4080mg
DHA	900mg
TUCDA	500mg
Vitamin D3	5000iu

PCT / Ancillary:

Purpose	Drug Name	Amount	Frequency
PCT	Tamoxifen	20mg	Daily for 4 weeks
PCT	HCG	12000iu	Monthly
PCT Gyno reduction (if needed)	Raloxifene	30-60mg	Daily: 2 weeks @ 60, 2 weeks @ 30
AI	Anastrazole	Very low, as needed based on bloods.	As needed, 1-2 times per week.

Bloodwork cycle:

Before cycle

Week 4

Week 6

Week 8

Week 10

Week 12

Week 14

Week 16

Anyone have some advice to improve this?

 

[wsmwannabe]

No need to ramp the test, just start at 500 and stick to it. It’ll just take your blood levels longer to stabilize if you do that. Like we talked about previously, cut down the dbol use to 4-6 weeks.

Do you need bloods every 2 weeks? I don’t think that will tell you much more than doing bloods before cycle, once at 6-8 weeks and once after PCT, like a month after you end your PCT.

 

[Jestopherson]

Why not run prop if you're only going to be hitting it for 10 weeks?

 

[wsmwannabe]

Why not run prop if you're only going to be hitting it for 10 weeks?

I see 8-10 weeks in a gray area where you could run either prop or enth/cyp

 

[Bork]

No need to ramp the test, just start at 500 and stick to it. It’ll just take your blood levels longer to stabilize if you do that. Like we talked about previously, cut down the dbol use to 4-6 weeks.

Do you need bloods every 2 weeks? I don’t think that will tell you much more than doing bloods before cycle, once at 6-8 weeks and once after PCT, like a month after you end your PCT.

Cool, I’ll fix that. And didn’t we talk about 16 weeks of test? And I’ll use dbol on the last 4-6 weeks?

 

[wsmwannabe]

Cool, I’ll fix that. And didn’t we talk about 16 weeks of test? And I’ll use dbol on the last 4-6 weeks?

I said 12 weeks on your other thread, 16 is fine too, but I wouldn’t go longer than that. If you get tired of being a pin cushion you could stop it early too.

Also if you plan to continuously cycle you may be better off going into a cruise, ASSUMING you do well with the cycle

 

[Silentlemon1011]

This is my first cycle, which I plan to start in a few weeks.

Roid Stack:

Week	Testosterone C	Dianabol
1	250mg/week	0mg
2	250mg/week	0mg
3	500mg/week	10mg/day
4	500mg/week	10mg/day
5	500mg/week	20mg/day
6	500mg/week	20mg/day
7	500mg/week	20mg/day
8	500mg/week	20mg/day
9	500mg/week	20mg/day
10	500mg/week	20mg/day
11	STOP AND WAIT	STOP AND WAIT
12	KEEP WAITING	KEEP WAITING
13	PCT	PCT
14	PCT	PCT
15	PCT	PCT
16	PCT	PCT

Daily support supplement stacks:

Supplement	Amount
Taurine	1000mg
Omega 3 Fish Oil	4080mg
DHA	900mg
TUCDA	500mg
Vitamin D3	5000iu

PCT / Ancillary:

Purpose	Drug Name	Amount	Frequency
PCT	Tamoxifen	20mg	Daily for 4 weeks
PCT	HCG	12000iu	Monthly
PCT Gyno reduction (if needed)	Raloxifene	30-60mg	Daily: 2 weeks @ 60, 2 weeks @ 30
AI	Anastrazole	Very low, as needed based on bloods.	As needed, 1-2 times per week.

Bloodwork cycle:

Before cycle

Week 4

Week 6

Week 8

Week 10

Week 12

Week 14

Week 16

Anyone have some advice to improve this?

You can at least format, so I'll assume you have a brain.
Divide the mg for your Compound by 50% each half life
Cypionate being 8 days
Wait until you have reached low levels within your system before starting PCT (Younhave to be at a low level for your SERMs to stimulate LH/FSH production

IE
-8 Days after last pin of 500mg
250
-16 days
125 (Normal TRT levels... STILL NOT GOOD ENOUGH)
-24 Days
62.5mg (Getting there, but some guys are hyper responsive, so let's give it 6 more days for fun)
-30 days
begin PCT

Front load Tamoxifen at a minimum of 60mg day one, this will assist in "Shocking" your HPTA and achieve a stable level, whereas at 20mg, it will take you 3 days to reach stable saturation.... waste of time
Our HPTA likes to be shocked.

For the rest,
Go for 12 weeks
Or switch to Prop
Like the other guys said, dont start with 250, just do it, it will take time for stability to be reached anyways

 

[Bork]

Since I am not allowed to edit my original post...

Week	Testosterone	Dianabol
1	500mg/week	None
2	500mg/week	None
3	500mg/week	None
4	500mg/week	None
5	500mg/week	None
6	500mg/week	None
7	500mg/week	20mg/day
8	500mg/week	20mg/day
9	500mg/week	20mg/day
10	500mg/week	20mg/day
11	500mg/week	20mg/day
12	500mg/week	20mg/day
13	STOP AND WAIT	STOP AND WAIT
14	KEEP WAITING	KEEP WAITING
15	KEEP WAITING	KEEP WAITING
16	KEEP WAITING	KEEP WAITING
17	KEEP WAITING / PCT	KEEP WAITING / PCT
18	PCT	PCT
19	PCT	PCT
20	PCT	PCT
21	PCT IF NEEDED	PCT IF NEEDED

 

[wsmwannabe]

So, this is partially anecdotal (but still somewhat data/bloodwork driven), but when I come off cycle I usually have to run an AI a week or two longer than my test. If I do not, I get CRAZY migraines from having high E2. In fact I will usually take AI (after test cycle has ended but before PCT starts) only IF I start getting a migraine. This also happens to me sometimes just going back to cruise, so I'll take a bit extra (.25 mg anastrazole every day that I have a migraine, which is only 2-3 days most times).

Just something to look out for.

 

[Sakis89]

I would drop the dbol for first cycle. You don't know how your estrogen will be with the Test, let aside with dbol combined.

Imo this would be the safest way to go:

Run bloodtest.
Start Test.
After 5-6 weeks redo bloodtest.
Fix your AI dosages if needed.

If you think you can control your Estrogen , maybe run dbol as a finisher after 10th week.
Will give you a nice boost and size to your current already boosted lifts.

Personally i would run the Test a bit more time. 12 weeks its like the sweet spot, that you started enjoying the gains.

 

[Jestopherson]

Personally I'd run some var or tbol if you want those quick Oral boosts. Dbol strength gains are fucking ridiculous but in my opinion 60mg var can hold its own pretty well without the water or aromatization