New Beginning

[confidential]

I've been looking around here for quite some time. The community seems very helpful and knowledgeable. Some posts are really inspiring so I decided to join this forum and hopefully achieve my goals as well.

Some friends started going to the gym almost three years ago and I joined them, but none of us were serious about it until earlier this year when I decided to stop messing around.

I got on TRT a few months ago. My starting dosage was 150mg Test E per week and for the purpose of this cutting phase I increased it to 225mg Test E. I also have some Clen lying around, but I'll not start taking it right off the bat.

Realistically my bodyfat percentage is at 20% or slightly above currently. I don't have any target numbers, although if I had to guess I would need to lose around 10kg to get lean. If it's only 7kg, great. If it's somehow 15kg, I'm still going to do it.

My metabolism is pretty fast, yet I still ended up being fat. I made a meal plan that consists of three fixed meals per day that come out to roughly 200g protein, 300g carbs and 30g fat. Dinner is my largest meal of the day and it's something different every time, but I'm aiming for at least 50g protein and preferably no more than 1.000 calories. If you think that's too much to lose weight, you don't want to know how much I used to eat…

As for my training, it's four workouts per week split into upper, lower, push, pull. I'm also thinking about buying a stationary bike for fasted cardio in the morning because my only activity at the moment is 10-12k steps per day.

I will post weekly updates of my weight and at the end a before and after physique picture.

 

[DugPrime]

You don't need clen unless you're already at 7% body fat and trying to hit 3-4% for a competition. Otherwise, clen won’t do much except put unnecessary strain on your heart.

Also, why did you increase your testosterone dosage to cut weight when you're not even over your genetic limit yet?

Also, 30g of fat is nowhere near enough. Lower your carbs and increase your fat intake to at least 70-100g.

 

[confidential]

You don't need clen unless you're already at 7% body fat and trying to hit 3-4% for a competition. Otherwise, clen won’t do much except put unnecessary strain on your heart.

Also, why did you increase your testosterone dosage to cut weight when you're not even over your genetic limit yet?

Also, 30g of fat is nowhere near enough. Lower your carbs and increase your fat intake to at least 70-100g.

I'm not sure about Clen, you hear people saying it’s basically heart attack pills and at the same time there are so many casual lifters running it without any issues. I increased my testosterone dosage to keep my strength up and as for my fat intake, I meant to say it comes out to 30g excluding my last meal. In total it’s much closer to what you recommend, depending on what exactly I eat for dinner.

Thanks for the suggestions though, I'll keep it in mind.

 

[DugPrime]

I'm not sure about Clen, you hear people saying it’s basically heart attack pills and at the same time there are so many casual lifters running it without any issues. I increased my testosterone dosage to keep my strength up and as for my fat intake, I meant to say it comes out to 30g excluding my last meal. In total it’s much closer to what you recommend, depending on what exactly I eat for dinner.

Thanks for the suggestions though, I'll keep it in mind.

Yeah, clenbuterol is extremely toxic and puts a massive strain on your heart. I'd rather use tirzepatide—it stimulates lipolysis, curbs your appetite, reduces insulin resistance, enhances nutrient partitioning, and has tons of other health benefits like reducing fatty liver. In your case, it's way more efficient in a cut than clenbuterol, without even 1/8th of the risks.

 

[Ghoul]

Clen is obsolete for your purposes, imo.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

If you’re determined to use a beta 2 agonist, look at salbutamol. But I agree with the folks above.

 

[Grey Spartan]

Also, 30g of fat is nowhere near enough.

If he is in a cutting phase and taking test, why do you say this is not enough fat?

 

[DugPrime]

If he is in a cutting phase and taking test, why do you say this is not enough fat?

Because fat isn't just about hormone production; it plays a crucial role in various physiological functions, including heart health, brain health, and cell membrane integrity. Also, without adequate fat intake, your body may not absorb essential vitamins efficiently.

Basically, regardless of whether he's in a cutting, maintenance, or bulking phase, protein and fats should remain approximately the same, with the main adjustment being made to the carbs.

 

[Trainedbytylerlofthouse19]

I've been looking around here for quite some time. The community seems very helpful and knowledgeable. Some posts are really inspiring so I decided to join this forum and hopefully achieve my goals as well.

Some friends started going to the gym almost three years ago and I joined them, but none of us were serious about it until earlier this year when I decided to stop messing around.

I got on TRT a few months ago. My starting dosage was 150mg Test E per week and for the purpose of this cutting phase I increased it to 225mg Test E. I also have some Clen lying around, but I'll not start taking it right off the bat.

Realistically my bodyfat percentage is at 20% or slightly above currently. I don't have any target numbers, although if I had to guess I would need to lose around 10kg to get lean. If it's only 7kg, great. If it's somehow 15kg, I'm still going to do it.

My metabolism is pretty fast, yet I still ended up being fat. I made a meal plan that consists of three fixed meals per day that come out to roughly 200g protein, 300g carbs and 30g fat. Dinner is my largest meal of the day and it's something different every time, but I'm aiming for at least 50g protein and preferably no more than 1.000 calories. If you think that's too much to lose weight, you don't want to know how much I used to eat…

As for my training, it's four workouts per week split into upper, lower, push, pull. I'm also thinking about buying a stationary bike for fasted cardio in the morning because my only activity at the moment is 10-12k steps per day.

I will post weekly updates of my weight and at the end a before and after physique picture.

Hey my friend fairly easy fix for all of this.. Swap your 3 meal for 5-6 meals Even if this mean drinking some shakes for convenience..

Are you fixed at training only 4 days weekly?

Up your steps to 15k on training days and higher on non training days.. Couple this with making rest days as active as possible in other ways.. Stretching, yoga etc.

Give it some time and once you get down to 12% you will need more Testosterone to be considered a cycle if your wanting to add more mass..

 

[confidential]

Hey my friend fairly easy fix for all of this.. Swap your 3 meal for 5-6 meals Even if this mean drinking some shakes for convenience..

Are you fixed at training only 4 days weekly?

Up your steps to 15k on training days and higher on non training days.. Couple this with making rest days as active as possible in other ways.. Stretching, yoga etc.

Give it some time and once you get down to 12% you will need more Testosterone to be considered a cycle if your wanting to add more mass..

I worded that poorly, I eat three fixed meals per day (oats with skyr and fruit, then beef with potatoes and mixed vegetables and lastly chicken and rice) and my fourth meal is IIFYM, for example today it was veal liver with mashed potatoes. If it’s important, I could easily add one or two protein shakes to my diet.

As for my training and activity, my schedule only really allows for 4x workouts per week, but I should probably do more cardio.

For my first real cycle in a few months I thought about running the classic 500mg Test E per week, what do you think?

Anyway, my weight has dropped by 2.4kg in less than 1.5 weeks, pretty cool.

 

[Grey Spartan]

For my first real cycle in a few months I thought about running the classic 500mg Test E per week, what do you think?

Since you are currently on 225mg, I would raise it up to 350 and roll with that for a while. That's what I did (going from 250 --> 350) and was happy with the look in the mirror and my blood work stayed perfect. If your plane is to add size don't forget to add food. You can't build a house without materials.

Then again, my advise is built around what I'm doing. Finding out how my body reacts to the food, drugs and doses by looking in the mirror and blood work. Once I find a breaking point I will decrease the variables or find out how to mitigate them.

 

[Trainedbytylerlofthouse19]

I worded that poorly, I eat three fixed meals per day (oats with skyr and fruit, then beef with potatoes and mixed vegetables and lastly chicken and rice) and my fourth meal is IIFYM, for example today it was veal liver with mashed potatoes. If it’s important, I could easily add one or two protein shakes to my diet.

As for my training and activity, my schedule only really allows for 4x workouts per week, but I should probably do more cardio.

For my first real cycle in a few months I thought about running the classic 500mg Test E per week, what do you think?

Anyway, my weight has dropped by 2.4kg in less than 1.5 weeks, pretty cool.

Yes even easier then my friend add a couple of protein shakes for now and when you want more carbs just add something to the shake when needed..

I mean obviously if you already recovering well you might not need the extra protein but more meals will equate to faster metabolism for the fat loss..

4 days will do you fine as long as you are hitting all muscle groups with enough volume for yourself..

Sounds absolutely fine to me.. See how you hold water and by week 10 you could add a low dose of Anavar to tighten everything up although once you stop or lower your Testosterone you will have a slight water drop that brings out all the gains you just made..

2.4kg is very good and should be a visible difference on the physique already.. Sounds like your doing great..

Looking forward to an update..

 

[confidential]

Small update, still fat.

 

[Trainedbytylerlofthouse19]

Small update, still fat.

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Good stuff mate.. Decent size on the arms and can see a little roundness to the shoulders.. Chest and front delts also look decent..

Probably not as fat as you think either dude you won't take long to be under 10%..

 

[confidential]

Good stuff mate.. Decent size on the arms and can see a little roundness to the shoulders.. Chest and front delts also look decent..

Probably not as fat as you think either dude you won't take long to be under 10%..

Thanks! Hopefully before Christmas, we will see.

 

[Trainedbytylerlofthouse19]

Thanks! Hopefully before Christmas, we will see.

Easy money bro

 

[confidential]

I‘m losing weight consistently, but I feel like 90% of my fat is stored in the area of my lower stomach, hips and lower back. Does anyone know if that’s genetics or something else like hormones?

Will it be like this forever when I gain some fat during a bulking phase while using gear?

 

[Slowww]

I‘m losing weight consistently, but I feel like 90% of my fat is stored in the area of my lower stomach, hips and lower back. Does anyone know if that’s genetics or something else like hormones?

Will it be like this forever when I gain some fat during a bulking phase while using gear?

genetics, age, sex and hormones will all effect it . realistically you will just have to get used to where you tend to place fat and when you lose it during a cut. If I’m not mistaken you’re describing a “gynoid” fat distribution and SCAT depots of fat (subcutaneous adipose tissue).

if you get it off last in a cut you’re gonna put it back first in that location in a bulk basically. I’m the same way and I have to get below 10% if I want those parts, especially lower abdominals to be decently conditioned. Fat distribution seems pretty individual though.

 

[Trainedbytylerlofthouse19]

I‘m losing weight consistently, but I feel like 90% of my fat is stored in the area of my lower stomach, hips and lower back. Does anyone know if that’s genetics or something else like hormones?

Will it be like this forever when I gain some fat during a bulking phase while using gear?

See Regan grimes Ifbb pro shredded for contest yet still has hamster cheeks.. It's just distribution by genetics.. You might find one cut your struggling with fat on legs while it melts everywhere else.. Trust the process my friend, even when you look flat it is temporary no muscle lost at all just glycogen and water and once replenished you will look bigger and better than ever..

 

[confidential]

Update @confidential

The picture I posted was at 82-83kg, now I'm 80-81kg because I got sick and used it as an excuse not to eat in a deficit anymore.

I know it's stupid, but I ordered some Clen and Anavar because I promised myself to get below 10% bodyfat this year…