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Anabolic Steroids
new cycle test E ++ anavar
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BEFORE YOU CYCLE ANYTHING, OBTAIN BASELINE LEVELS ON AT LEAST THE FOLLOWING; TT, E-2, LH and "liver function studies".
Bc many don't develop E-2 issues unless the amount of test supplemented exceeds 500mg/week I would not use the AI (Aromasin) from the outset.
Oh also running 50mg of Var for EIGHT WEEKS straight is NOT a good idea bc of liver "toxicity". Although 4-6 weeks is customary, 4 weeks on (1-4) followed by 4 off (4-8) and 4 weeks on (8-12), is more reasonable PROVIDING your LFT's are WNL prior to resuming at week 8.
Bc of your relatively young age and the fact this is your first cycle (I assume correct?) only ONE SERM will be needed.
You also must use a higher dose of HCG upon the cycles completion. Like 1000-2000 IU QOD starting at week 11 and continuing until week 13. Using the AI to limit TT - E-2 may also be helpful at this juncture.
You really need to devote considerably more time reviewing the Meso home page or a few of the threads by DOC Scally on PCT. Just remember bc your cycle is relatively "light" some of the meds suggested for PCT may not be useful or indicated in YOUR CASE.
JIM
Bc many don't develop E-2 issues unless the amount of test supplemented exceeds 500mg/week I would not use the AI (Aromasin) from the outset.
Oh also running 50mg of Var for EIGHT WEEKS straight is NOT a good idea bc of liver "toxicity". Although 4-6 weeks is customary, 4 weeks on (1-4) followed by 4 off (4-8) and 4 weeks on (8-12), is more reasonable PROVIDING your LFT's are WNL prior to resuming at week 8.
Bc of your relatively young age and the fact this is your first cycle (I assume correct?) only ONE SERM will be needed.
You also must use a higher dose of HCG upon the cycles completion. Like 1000-2000 IU QOD starting at week 11 and continuing until week 13. Using the AI to limit TT - E-2 may also be helpful at this juncture.
You really need to devote considerably more time reviewing the Meso home page or a few of the threads by DOC Scally on PCT. Just remember bc your cycle is relatively "light" some of the meds suggested for PCT may not be useful or indicated in YOUR CASE.
JIM
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MEH cyclist
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Hey Dr Jim! for someone who has done this cycle exactly the way you described except for 6 months would you recommend the more aggressive dr scally pct?
Fella ^^^^ you REALLY need to start reading bc the fact your asking a question about what PCT is appropriate after A SIX MONTH cycle, clearly shows you have no earthly idea about CYCLING AAS,
NUTS!
NUTS!
MEH cyclist
New Member
I am beginning to think that you just enjoy being douchey with people. The majority of you responses I have read on this forum has this disgusting air of arrogance to it, instead of actually trying to help people. Of course its questionable if that is your intention of being here to begin with. Whats nuts is that you assume that my question means that I don't know what protocol I should use or I haven't done my research. I don't see why regardless of how much information one has about a subject, it is inappropriate to ask a self-proclaimed "expert's" opinion as well. Not only I have not done a 6 month cycle, but I have a very clear idea of how my pct should be for my current 3 month cycle. I assumed I could actually explore my curiosity by asking you, I am beginning to think that was a mistake. You seem to enjoy ripping on people of lesser knowledge more than actually educating them. Real classy....
Yea well your ^^^^!four posts and lack of any effort whatsoever to discover what a cycle is or is not, were most deserving,of my comments, so get over it, child!
Mirello,
My suggestion would be to drop the anavar, bump up the test to 500mg a week and run that for 12 weeks.
I'd still use the aromasin at a light dose, 6mg daily starting at the beginning of week 3.
Adjust the AI dose as estro symptoms show or don't show.
I like your 2 serm PCT, but you could probably drop the nolva dose in half.
Wait 3 weeks from your last pin to start the PCT.
As Jim suggested, get some pre cycle bloodwork, the female hormone panel will work for you.
best of luck with your cycle.
My suggestion would be to drop the anavar, bump up the test to 500mg a week and run that for 12 weeks.
I'd still use the aromasin at a light dose, 6mg daily starting at the beginning of week 3.
Adjust the AI dose as estro symptoms show or don't show.
I like your 2 serm PCT, but you could probably drop the nolva dose in half.
Wait 3 weeks from your last pin to start the PCT.
As Jim suggested, get some pre cycle bloodwork, the female hormone panel will work for you.
best of luck with your cycle.
MEH cyclist
New Member
hahaha the sheer irony here is amusing.....
daledd
New Member
Test e is test e no matter which source it comes from.
Unless it's just grape seed oil, or test c, or what ever went in the Vial. But it should be test E
1-12 test e 500mg / week
1-4 anavar 50mg ed
7-12 anavar 50mg ed
3-12 aromasin 12,5 mg eod
8-14 hcg 500iu week
pct
14-18 clomid 50/50/25/25
14-18 nolva 40/40/20/20/10
hi guys, are the second week of my cycle, and when I train I feel like a muscle stiffening accompanied by muscle fatigue,and if I make a wrong move I feel a principle of cramps in the neck area... it is the first time you use anavar, may be the cause?
1-4 anavar 50mg ed
7-12 anavar 50mg ed
3-12 aromasin 12,5 mg eod
8-14 hcg 500iu week
pct
14-18 clomid 50/50/25/25
14-18 nolva 40/40/20/20/10
hi guys, are the second week of my cycle, and when I train I feel like a muscle stiffening accompanied by muscle fatigue,and if I make a wrong move I feel a principle of cramps in the neck area... it is the first time you use anavar, may be the cause?
1-12 test e 500mg / week
6-12 anavar 50mg ed
1-12 aromasin 12,5 mg eod
8-14 hcg 500iu week
pct
15-19 clomid 50/50/25/25
15-19 nolva 40/40/20/20/10
hello guys, I wanted to know, in your experience if the PCT is fine in this way?
I have to change something?? I have to run aromasin?
6-12 anavar 50mg ed
1-12 aromasin 12,5 mg eod
8-14 hcg 500iu week
pct
15-19 clomid 50/50/25/25
15-19 nolva 40/40/20/20/10
hello guys, I wanted to know, in your experience if the PCT is fine in this way?
I have to change something?? I have to run aromasin?
