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nkosibaas

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Hi all I'm a new member from socal. 6"1' 225 (before I started the cycle I'm nearly done with) and around 18%.

Been training for most of my life since 15 years old. I'm 30 now and went through some personal struggles in the last few years. I got clean a couple years ago but while I was in treatment I got up to 290 pounds. About 18 months ago I got serious about my health again and lost most of the weight but realized I couldn't gain muscle or lose fat the way I used to and decided to try my first cycle. I started with test e at 600mg a week and ran 50mg anadrol ed for 4 weeks then bumped up to 750 test e with 550 deca for 6 weeks. I'm on straight test e now and approaching the end of my cycle. I plan on running HCG and nolva for my PCT.

I've put on 23 pounds, two inches on my arms, and filled out nicely everywhere. Overall I couldn't be happier with my choice to try AAS and look forward to a more aggressive second cycle after lowering my bf to around 13-15%

I've been lurking for a while now and have found a room of useful info here which has made me feel a lot more confident about my choices and how to be safe and realistic with my expectations.

One question - I've been toying with the idea of switching to prop and running out my cycle a little longer (45 days maybe) with some clen and T3 to help facilitate cutting some bf without losing as much of the gains I've made. I know I need to lean down more before running my next cycle but I'm afraid I'll lose to much muscle if I go straight to a cut after coming off cycle. Also, I've heard running prop at the end can be good because you can start PCT two days after your last pin. Thoughts?
 
Welcome to meso bro. I'm not seasoned enough to give cycle advice but I got clean a while ago and know all about the struggle. I'm 6 weeks into my first cycle "10 years natty" and I'm loving it. I also would like to finish with some prop. I'll keep my ears open for some info on this thread in regards to that.Again WELCOME TO MESO BRO!!!

Frank the tank
 
Frank the tank 456 said:
Welcome to meso bro. I'm not seasoned enough to give cycle advice but I got clean a while ago and know all about the struggle. I'm 6 weeks into my first cycle "10 years natty" and I'm loving it. I also would like to finish with some prop. I'll keep my ears open for some info on this thread in regards to that.Again WELCOME TO MESO BRO!!!

Frank the tank
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Fuck yea bro that's rad! Thanks for the reply
 
What I see first and foremost is you say your running Nolvadex with HCG for PCT. Do not run HCG during PCT. HCG should be ran during cycle or blasted toward the end of a cycle before PCT. As for just using Nolvadex for PCT I know a few people that do that but I don't ever recommend it. I prefer Clomid and Nolvadex for pct. Another thing I noticed was you ran Deca for only 6 weeks. What was the point in this? Deca should be ran a minimum of 12 weeks to get any benefit out of it. And switching to prop to start pct two days after last pin will not work. You need to start your prop at least a week before you get off the test enanthate then continue to run the prop for about a month or maybe 3 weeks after your last pin of test E. You can then get off the test prop and start your PCT around a week or maybe 5 days after your last prop pin. You want as much of the test out of your system before you try and start things back up.
To try and keep as much gains as possible I would start on some creatine after your last pin and possibly increase your calories some to help support your new weight. If you didn't take an AI like Arimadex you're going to have a lot of water retention and the creatine will help a little with maintaining some water weight.
Good luck and if you need any specifics on the pct hit me up.
BM
 
Boilermech said:
What I see first and foremost is you say your running Nolvadex with HCG for PCT. Do not run HCG during PCT. HCG should be ran during cycle or blasted toward the end of a cycle before PCT. As for just using Nolvadex for PCT I know a few people that do that but I don't ever recommend it. I prefer Clomid and Nolvadex for pct. Another thing I noticed was you ran Deca for only 6 weeks. What was the point in this? Deca should be ran a minimum of 12 weeks to get any benefit out of it. And switching to prop to start pct two days after last pin will not work. You need to start your prop at least a week before you get off the test enanthate then continue to run the prop for about a month or maybe 3 weeks after your last pin of test E. You can then get off the test prop and start your PCT around a week or maybe 5 days after your last prop pin. You want as much of the test out of your system before you try and start things back up.
To try and keep as much gains as possible I would start on some creatine after your last pin and possibly increase your calories some to help support your new weight. If you didn't take an AI like Arimadex you're going to have a lot of water retention and the creatine will help a little with maintaining some water weight.
Good luck and if you need any specifics on the pct hit me up.
BM
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Thank you for taking the time to respond!

Let me clarify a couple things - I was planning on blasting HCG during the last week of test usage and move into Nolva following that. You would recommend Nolva + Clomid? Awesome, I'll look into that. Thanks

As for the Deca I don't really have a good answer. I should have been better prepared. I was expecting to pick up another bottle and move it out to 12 weeks but it didn't end up working out that way.

As for the test prop - the idea was to start it during my last week of Test E and run it for 45 days concurrent with this Clen and T3 cycle:

http://www.anabolicsteroidforums.co...to-run-T3-stacked-with-Clen-for-cutting-cycle

Then begin PCT at conclusion
 
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