newby cycle?

[rob3412]

ive been lifting for 2 years and want to go on a cycle. from what i have been reading up on.. i have heard a lot of good things about deca stacked with test. im 6'2 195 13 percent body fat trying to gain around 20 pounds by end of summer. and plz i know u guys are trying to help, but i have made my mind up and want to take a cycle, so plz dont respond back by "steroids arent for you" :/

heres my pic http://www.geocities.com/avasavealot89/DSC00670.jpg

 

[Patuba]

What are your goals?

 

[chemist]

I did many cycles in my life,now I am 32 years old,and can give You one advice,if You have choice,much better combo is test/EQ then test/deca.I am not hate deca,but EQ will give more quality and less wather retention.One more thing,are You heard for deca dick situation?But opinions are very different about this two stuffs.However,good luck with Your first cycle!!!Make very clear and good plains,You must make best result of that cycle,only first cycle rocks you like hell!!Other?You must overload you to feel same thing

Regards

Chemist

 

[rob3412]

hoping to gain 20 pounds of mass by end of summer

What are your goals?

i have gone on a high protien high carb diet although it helps i want to gain this weight quicker then possable since i have a tournament at the end of the summer. i want around 20 pounds or a little more . how much do the test / deca run on average cost wize. i cant really believe anything i read on the net, since some places are probably fakes

 

[Turbo1]

Read around in the classifieds bro. Read for awhile cause there are alot of scammers. You can runn EQ and Test at 500mg/week each and get yoru pins and PCT stuff for under 300.

 

[jago25_98]

deca warnings

Watch out.

Deca not just causes Estrogen to form from Test but it also causes a Progestin effect.

Both of these hormones give to you Bitch Tits etc -but- You can only block the conversion to Estrogen as far as I know. You can't block the Progestin effect of Deca. Hopefully this might change in the future as Deca is otherwise not bad; aid joints, lower effect in prostate/skin/scalp.

Before I figured this out; that there's 2 `female` hormones involved I was considering Deca only as the safest option.

As a result I'm continuing to look for that safest, lowest side effect option. I've tried posting for a question pointer in the right direction but responses have been useless, usually telling me to read all the literature to get the info I need.

In my search the best I think I've found so far is Masteron... I think (see drug profile). Following this is the next option is the more traditional Sus250+Estro inhibitor I guess.

Let me know how you get on

 

[chemist]

Watch out.

Deca not just causes Estrogen to form from Test but it also causes a Progestin effect.

Both of these hormones give to you Bitch Tits etc -but- You can only block the conversion to Estrogen as far as I know. You can't block the Progestin effect of Deca. Hopefully this might change in the future as Deca is otherwise not bad; aid joints, lower effect in prostate/skin/scalp.

Before I figured this out; that there's 2 `female` hormones involved I was considering Deca only as the safest option.

As a result I'm continuing to look for that safest, lowest side effect option. I've tried posting for a question pointer in the right direction but responses have been useless, usually telling me to read all the literature to get the info I need.

In my search the best I think I've found so far is Masteron... I think (see drug profile). Following this is the next option is the more traditional Sus250+Estro inhibitor I guess.

Let me know how you get on

This is best comment i ever see-lower effect in prostate/skin/scalp!!You are very right in this point,but must to demand You about Masteron.That drug is very very serious and usualy is used just in precontest period in bodybuilding.That is prety much poison stuff and have more androgen then almost all steroids(except anadrol,halotestin)I used almost all kind of seroids and can tell you my personal expirince,not just from steroid book,and if you want to make nice size and have less side effects-keep away from Masteron.On the amp of European Masteron(made in Portugal) You can see small orange skull with crroses bones under skull,that is serious warrning.Thanks.

Regards

Chemist

 

[rob3412]

well

i just got hooked up by a friend of mine for free! i guess he was going out for the cal berk team and was gonna use his cycle , but decided not to anyways this is what i have at the moment, winstrol and primo should i stack the 2 of them and how much should i take a week. 50/mg and amp soo.?

also should i shoot in the butt,thigh,shoulder ect.. my brother shot his deca in hi thigh and had problems with being very sore. my friend recommends in the butt.. what would u guys recommend? also i will be taking accutane with this.. i had acne before and some what have a little now on my chest , so i hope by taking accutane i wont have a bad side effect with acne... and yes they are injectables so im safe to take the accutane pills correct?

 

[chemist]

i just got hooked up by a friend of mine for free! i guess he was going out for the cal berk team and was gonna use his cycle , but decided not to anyways this is what i have at the moment, winstrol and primo should i stack the 2 of them and take 100 mgs a week of winstrol for 5 weeks?

also should i shoot in the butt,thigh,shoulder ect.. my brother shot his deca in hi thigh and had problems with being very sore. my friend recommends in the butt.. what would u guys recommend? also i will be taking accutane with this.. i had acne before and some what have a little now on my chest , so i hope by taking accutane i wont have a bad side effect with acne... and yes they are injectables so im safe to take the accutane pills correct?

Primo is one of more safeist stuff,but winstrol is not.It can make You hair lose and if You use it to long can increas pain in your 'links'.But more dangerous stuff is accutane,it can make your skin dry,demage your liver,and make Your blood fats to high.Be careful,ask someone for advice when you decide to use accutane with your first cycle.

Regards

Chemist

 

[Silverback]

i just got hooked up by a friend of mine for free! i guess he was going out for the cal berk team and was gonna use his cycle , but decided not to anyways this is what i have at the moment, winstrol and primo should i stack the 2 of them and take 100 mgs a week of winstrol for 5 weeks?

also should i shoot in the butt,thigh,shoulder ect.. my brother shot his deca in hi thigh and had problems with being very sore. my friend recommends in the butt.. what would u guys recommend? also i will be taking accutane with this.. i had acne before and some what have a little now on my chest , so i hope by taking accutane i wont have a bad side effect with acne... and yes they are injectables so im safe to take the accutane pills correct?

I wont tell you not to take anything, because you are going to do what you want anyway,----but you dont know enough to be sticking yourself with anything!!!

ex 100mg of winny a week?? that is a total waste

I like this comment " my friend recommends in the butt" lol I bet he does

just research more and read drug profiles, other guys first cycles etc--

 

[jjrock]

that cycle of winny and primo is not going to get you the gains that
you want. I advise you go out and purchase some test either
cypionate or sust and stack it with deca or equipoise. The only
problem with the deca and equipoise is it takes a while to kick
in. Then the last 5 or 6 weeks of your cycle i'd throw in the
winny everyday. I assume you want to do a 10 or 12 week
cycle so depending on if you consume alot of protein, you may
see the 20 pounds you want.

As for shooting it, i have only ever shot in the butt. Some people
say the winny is site injectable but if i were you i'd just stick with
the butt. If i were you i would do some more research, then
start your cycle.

 

[rob3412]

yea, im not gonna take the cycle till mid june. trying to read up as much as i can :/. how much gaines u think i i could get with just primo and winstrol. i also have 10 mg dbol pills with me, but i dont want to take the dbol since ill be on accutane. i mean if i can get 10 pounds with the winstrol id be happy since i didnt pay anything for it :/

 

[rob3412]

i ment to say 300.. a week

 

[rob3412]

i already have been on 2 cycles of accutane with my dermotolgist
i got all my blood work in. i was taking 40 mg a day a year ago for 5 months had no problem with it just dry lips

 

[Slick Arrado]

For a beginner, I'd also recommend Sauce and Deca. You may want to throw in an oral, Drol or Var are my preferences. Winny is not going to put the weight on you like Test will. It'll make you ripped, but not at that dosage.

 

[Patuba]

For my first cycle I'm taking Test Enan at 500mg a week and I took d-bol at 30mg for the first 5 weeks. It took much longer for the Test to kick in than I expected so my gains staggered for a bit. If you want a good mass gainer take Test Enan or Cyp with some D-bol or EQ. Skip the winny until you want to cut.

i have gone on a high protien high carb diet although it helps i want to gain this weight quicker then possable since i have a tournament at the end of the summer. i want around 20 pounds or a little more . how much do the test / deca run on average cost wize. i cant really believe anything i read on the net, since some places are probably fakes

 

[jago25_98]

You gotta make a decision:

- safer cycle
or
- cycle with the gains you want

Winstrol isn't as bad as Andro but not what I'd label as `safer`

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/15031

Personally I'm researching "Primo/Anavar" stack:

(I'm after the lowest possible symtom cycle)

Considering Anavar+Primo (currently researching), will worry about sourcing it later.

http://www.united-pharmacy.com/cycles_9.asp

http://www.superiormuscle.com/showthread/t-165.html

 

[rob3412]

k

heres what im thinking

300 mg deca qv/super test
for 10 weeks..
,but i mean this is my first cycle im not feeling a 10 week cycle, im looking for something around 5 weeks.. for my first cycle..

 

[jago25_98]

You risk progesterone from the Deca which afaik is unblockable so watch for bitch tits or monitor levels.

Otherwise than this the Deca is nice I hear. Unsure on the Test

 

[superman15]

wait...so if the deca does turn progestic cant you help that. Dont you use bromo because im debating on using EQ or DECA. do you have to have bromo throughout your whole cycle or what. how do you people do it when your on a deca cycle?