next cycle (help please)

[mr.big]

Okay, my next cycle is as follows. This will be my 9th or so cycle. I generally
do 2 or so a year. I'm 6' 2" at 220 and around 11% BF. I have 12 years of
training experience.

Week1-10: 400mg T-400 + 400 mg. Test Cyp.
Week1-10: 400mg EQ

PCT would be the usual Clomid and Nolva.
Nolva I only take when the nips get sensitive
as on all my past cycles.

One big question: I have HCG, how should I run this
with my cycle or PCT for best recovery PC?

Last cycle I ran it starting the day of my last shot of
Test and Deca and ran for 2 weeks then started Clomid.
That was the first time ever using HCG and so I'm not exactly
sure on the best mething for when exactly to use.

I did 500 IU ED of the Pregnyl.

Thanks bros!

 

[mr.big]

bump!

 

[brianguta2000]

bump!

how much hcd do you have

 

[sterol]

Okay, my next cycle is as follows. This will be my 9th or so cycle. I generally
do 2 or so a year. I'm 6' 2" at 220 and around 11% BF. I have 12 years of
training experience.

Week1-10: 400mg T-400 + 400 mg. Test Cyp.
Week1-10: 400mg EQ

PCT would be the usual Clomid and Nolva.
Nolva I only take when the nips get sensitive
as on all my past cycles.

One big question: I have HCG, how should I run this
with my cycle or PCT for best recovery PC?

Last cycle I ran it starting the day of my last shot of
Test and Deca and ran for 2 weeks then started Clomid.
That was the first time ever using HCG and so I'm not exactly
sure on the best mething for when exactly to use.

I did 500 IU ED of the Pregnyl.

Thanks bros!

Run the equiposie longer, you will notice some drastic changes at 12 weeks. Or you could front load 200mg ED for 7 days to feel the effects sooner.

There are various opinions on how to run the HCG. Some say during the cycle some say post cycle and some say not at all. I can tell you that HCG is rather long acting in it's effects in studies I've seen, so it makes sense that you shouldn't have to inject everyday.

someone suggested 1,000 iu for two days, then wait five days and repeat. My last cyle I decied not to use my HCG and just used nolvadex like usual, so I can't tell you from experience. But I do think you need to run the EQ longer.

 

[mr.big]

Run the equiposie longer, you will notice some drastic changes at 12 weeks. Or you could front load 200mg ED for 7 days to feel the effects sooner.

There are various opinions on how to run the HCG. Some say during the cycle some say post cycle and some say not at all. I can tell you that HCG is rather long acting in it's effects in studies I've seen, so it makes sense that you shouldn't have to inject everyday.

someone suggested 1,000 iu for two days, then wait five days and repeat. My last cyle I decied not to use my HCG and just used nolvadex like usual, so I can't tell you from experience. But I do think you need to run the EQ longer.

Thanks for your input. I've never thought of running EQ longer than 10 weeks.
All past cycles I ran for 10. Did you personally run EQ for 12 weeks and notice
a significant difference? I may frontload and just do an 8-weeker and get out
before the cortisol levels get too high and the body decides to regain it's
homeostasis and exogenous test has no results with me usually over 8 weeks
to begin with because my body begins to adjust even with anti-e's and HPTA
inhibition begins. That's why I ask if you have personally used EQ 12 weeks
out because everyone's body is different.

Been using AAS for 8 years off and on and I'm still learning new things.

 

[dumblucky]

you might wnat to reconsider using nolva through out the cycle at 10mg. I also never used it but after reading a lot about it seems its actually not going to hamper any gains..
give this link a good read
http://67.18.108.244//showthread.php?t=115738&highlight=sold

 

[einstein1905]

you might wnat to reconsider using nolva through out the cycle at 10mg. I also never used it but after reading a lot about it seems its actually not going to hamper any gains..
give this link a good read
http://67.18.108.244//showthread.php?t=115738&highlight=sold

Good link I can skip my opinion on the nolva now.

I'd definitely run the EQ longer, just as i would deca, were you using it in that cycle. With these longer-estered AAS, you want to take advantage of X weeks at peak plasma levels. You COULD frontload, but a longer cycle isn't as bad as once thought. Now that people are learning how to do proper pcts, the recovery process is much hastened.

With both T400, cyp and EQ, you can just assume an active life of 18-21 days, so your clomid won't begin until 21 days after the last injection. I'd begin HCG 2 weeks priot to your last injection and run it at 500IU E4D, so that the last HCG dose falls 48 hrs before starting clomid

 

[mr.big]

Good link I can skip my opinion on the nolva now.

I'd definitely run the EQ longer, just as i would deca, were you using it in that cycle. With these longer-estered AAS, you want to take advantage of X weeks at peak plasma levels. You COULD frontload, but a longer cycle isn't as bad as once thought. Now that people are learning how to do proper pcts, the recovery process is much hastened.

With both T400, cyp and EQ, you can just assume an active life of 18-21 days, so your clomid won't begin until 21 days after the last injection. I'd begin HCG 2 weeks priot to your last injection and run it at 500IU E4D, so that the last HCG dose falls 48 hrs before starting clomid

Thanks for the input Einstein. I usually agree with and value your posts. In the past I've always drawn out my deca and equipoise cycles if they were part of the stack. I'm just researching and looking at new ways to be able to keep more of my gains PC. Thank you for some HCG info, I used it for the first time last cycle and it seemed to have helped some. However how do I know that 500IU is going to do it for me every 4 days without blood work? Any other things to notice or watch for when listening to the body?

 

[einstein1905]

Thanks for the input Einstein. I usually agree with and value your posts. In the past I've always drawn out my deca and equipoise cycles if they were part of the stack. I'm just researching and looking at new ways to be able to keep more of my gains PC. Thank you for some HCG info, I used it for the first time last cycle and it seemed to have helped some. However how do I know that 500IU is going to do it for me every 4 days without blood work? Any other things to notice or watch for when listening to the body?

reversal of testicular atrophy is what you're looking for. 4-5 weeks is all I need at 500IU E4D after 20+ wek cycles to reverse testicular atrophy. Once the leydig cells are functioning again (as evidenced by the boys being regular sized), the increase in gonadotropins from the use of clomid will be much more effectively utilized, and test production should resume to normal quickly

 

[mr.big]

reversal of testicular atrophy is what you're looking for. 4-5 weeks is all I need at 500IU E4D after 20+ wek cycles to reverse testicular atrophy. Once the leydig cells are functioning again (as evidenced by the boys being regular sized), the increase in gonadotropins from the use of clomid will be much more effectively utilized, and test production should resume to normal quickly

Sounds like good advice to me. So for this next cycle I am thinking
that since I have T-400, Cypionate 200 and EQ 200 I will do 2 shots
per week to keep plasma levels as even as possible.

So how does this look: I'm thinking.....

Day1 : T-400 and EQ 200 = 2ML.

Day 4 : Cyp-200 x2 (400mg Cyp) and EQ 200 = 3ML.

Do this for 10 weeks and starting on week 8 start HCG at 500IU
every 4 days for 4 weeks.

Week 12 start Clomid and Nolva ED at 50mg/20mg.

I will most likely use Tamoxifen at 10mg per day thoughout
this next cycle as I tried this last cyce on Deca/Test and it
seemed to help quite a bit.

Thanks for you help bro!

 

[Deacon]

Good link I can skip my opinion on the nolva now.

I'd definitely run the EQ longer, just as i would deca, were you using it in that cycle. With these longer-estered AAS, you want to take advantage of X weeks at peak plasma levels. You COULD frontload, but a longer cycle isn't as bad as once thought. Now that people are learning how to do proper pcts, the recovery process is much hastened.

With both T400, cyp and EQ, you can just assume an active life of 18-21 days, so your clomid won't begin until 21 days after the last injection. I'd begin HCG 2 weeks priot to your last injection and run it at 500IU E4D, so that the last HCG dose falls 48 hrs before starting clomid

I agree

 

[mr.big]

I agree

Okay. Sounds like I may drag it out a little longer, however I've never done
a cycle with EQ in the mix longer than 10 weeks and have made great gains.
And I've done 2 or 3 in the last few years.

How many weeks? 14 or 12 ?

I'm also planning on jumpstarting with 75mg A-Bombs per day for the first
few weeks to kickstart things. Since Anadrol can create progesteron if I'm
not mistaken, especially when stacked with Test should I use another ancillary
with this stack? I've used Napos and other dbols plenty of times but think that
the increase in red blood cells will really kick in with the drols. I've always seen
good results in past years with dbol.

How does that sound and should I think about an AR such as Arimidex or just
rely on an AE - Nolva at 10mg per day during the entire cycle? And of course
if I start to get the itchy/painful nips I'll up the dosage to 40mg/day until symptons go away.

Thanks for the advice bros!

 

[mr.big]

BUMP!

Would it be okay to take 75mg ED of Anadrol for 1st 2 weeks?
Even if EQ's in the stack? Too many red blood cells I've read
can lead to a stroke......

 

[mr.big]

reversal of testicular atrophy is what you're looking for. 4-5 weeks is all I need at 500IU E4D after 20+ wek cycles to reverse testicular atrophy. Once the leydig cells are functioning again (as evidenced by the boys being regular sized), the increase in gonadotropins from the use of clomid will be much more effectively utilized, and test production should resume to normal quickly

Great advice Einstein. One more question?

Would it be okay to take 75mg ED of Anadrol for 1st 2 weeks?
Even if EQ's in the stack? Too many red blood cells I've read
can lead to a stroke...... I could even just use 50mg ED A-Bombs.

What do you think? Any concerns?

Thanks again for your expertise you are one of a kind.

 

[einstein1905]

Great advice Einstein. One more question?

Would it be okay to take 75mg ED of Anadrol for 1st 2 weeks?
Even if EQ's in the stack? Too many red blood cells I've read
can lead to a stroke...... I could even just use 50mg ED A-Bombs.

What do you think? Any concerns?

Thanks again for your expertise you are one of a kind.

For 2 weeks, I wouldn't worry about it, but you may want to check your hematocrit about 6-7 weeks in. If it's a bit high (~ >51-52 or so), you may want to "donate" plasma to reduce it some. Monitoring bp throughout can be a good indicator too.