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. I just began using black tops, batch 31, and haven't experienced the reported red welts. Is it typical or the exception
 
There are not many reports of red welts from the black tops... you're the first I've heard of running batch 31. What are you referring to? Point us in a direction
 
Marcus said:
There are not many reports of red welts from the black tops... you're the first I've heard of running batch 31. What are you referring to? Point us in a direction
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I was under the impression people were getting red welts at the injection site from the black tops. Last time I ran gh (2007) I often got welts but it was a different brand. The number on each vial of the black tops is 31. I'm assuming that is for batch 31.
 
Outlier said:
. I just began using black tops, batch 31, and haven't experienced the reported red welts. Is it typical or the exception
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Godtropin had a bunch of people getting red welts , but as far as I remember blacks and greys may have had a few isolated cases of people getting welts but i can't even remember off hand so if they did it wasn't many !
 
Ya... I think you may have the brand confused with godtropin. The majority of people I know running them, have had just good experiences
 
Could be confused with Pandas black tops since they're basically the same as godtropin. As long as u got them from TP or PD u shouldn't have anything to worry about as far as red welts.
 
Jeffg353 said:
Could be confused with Pandas black tops since they're basically the same as godtropin. As long as u got them from TP or PD u shouldn't have anything to worry about as far as red welts.
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Agreed. Meditropes (Black Tops) are not having reports of causing welts. Or at least that i know of.
 
I got them from Meditrope, and had posted about them awhile back on the PD thread. I think I may have been the only one I ever saw that got them, from the blacks from PD.. I only got the welts From Sub Q injections, switched to IM, on the advice of PD, and they went away.. I’ve done Sub Q since, same batch, and not had any further issues.. it was the first time I’ve done growth, so assuming it was a short lived side.. All bueno now, though..
 
I've experienced occasional welts from Blacks, I chalked it up to my skin being a bit more sensitive and it certainly wasn't the norm going through 6 months.
 
I got them for maybe a week to a week and a half, like a month, or 6 weeks into my run, and haven’t had any since.... I seem to be real sensitive to the sides with these fuckers, though.. going to give greys a shot, in the next couple of weeks... if the sides are lessened, they’ll be worth the higher price...
 
gobigorgohome1218 said:
Approximately 1 week in on blacks #31. No issues. Will be posting bloods once they're in
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Today marks the end of my first week as well. I reconstituted at 13iu's and I'm taking 4iu's/day. Two things I've noticed, increase in sleep (i'm running tren so I welcome this side) and water retention. My weight jumped from 253 to 259. I wouldn't mind this if it weren't so noticeable in my face. I did ATG squats this morning and the lower back pumps were too much that I couldn't finish my leg workout. I'll be backing down to 3iu's and possibly 2iu's. At almost 39, I'm sure I'm getting a great increase in my igf-1 levels and I need to approach the blacktops with a little more caution
 
Outlier said:
Today marks the end of my first week as well. I reconstituted at 13iu's and I'm taking 4iu's/day. Two things I've noticed, increase in sleep (i'm running tren so I welcome this side) and water retention. My weight jumped from 253 to 259. I wouldn't mind this if it weren't so noticeable in my face. I did ATG squats this morning and the lower back pumps were too much that I couldn't finish my leg workout. I'll be backing down to 3iu's and possibly 2iu's. At almost 39, I'm sure I'm getting a great increase in my igf-1 levels and I need to approach the blacktops with a little more caution
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Recon them at 15iu n start at a lower dose. The thing to remember with gh...It's a marathon not a sprint to the finish. Take the time to build up to desired dose to manage the sides so they don't effect lifts. The water retention will eventually fade. Mine lasted almost a whole month but when the water finally fell off noticed a good deal of fat loss.
 
Outlier said:
Today marks the end of my first week as well. I reconstituted at 13iu's and I'm taking 4iu's/day. Two things I've noticed, increase in sleep (i'm running tren so I welcome this side) and water retention. My weight jumped from 253 to 259. I wouldn't mind this if it weren't so noticeable in my face. I did ATG squats this morning and the lower back pumps were too much that I couldn't finish my leg workout. I'll be backing down to 3iu's and possibly 2iu's. At almost 39, I'm sure I'm getting a great increase in my igf-1 levels and I need to approach the blacktops with a little more caution
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I'm reconstituting at 15iu. Taking 3iu every pm. Only other supp is test c. Hand/fingers puffy. Def notice the pumps and vascularity. Actually flushing in the face throughout day. Have baseline IGF-1 and will be pulling next one in a week.
 
Outlier said:
Today marks the end of my first week as well. I reconstituted at 13iu's and I'm taking 4iu's/day. Two things I've noticed, increase in sleep (i'm running tren so I welcome this side) and water retention. My weight jumped from 253 to 259. I wouldn't mind this if it weren't so noticeable in my face. I did ATG squats this morning and the lower back pumps were too much that I couldn't finish my leg workout. I'll be backing down to 3iu's and possibly 2iu's. At almost 39, I'm sure I'm getting a great increase in my igf-1 levels and I need to approach the blacktops with a little more caution
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Jeffg353 said:
Recon them at 15iu n start at a lower dose. The thing to remember with gh...It's a marathon not a sprint to the finish. Take the time to build up to desired dose to manage the sides so they don't effect lifts. The water retention will eventually fade. Mine lasted almost a whole month but when the water finally fell off noticed a good deal of fat loss.
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Another approach is to split the dose into twice a day after you reach 4 or 5 iu. I'm actually planning to keep GH at 3 or less and hit MK677 25mg/day. Depends on labs. Plus after I stabilize this dosing will strongly consider T4 at 50mcg
 
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