Noob question on a Peptide Stack

[Matts4313]

Hello all,

Background: No steroids ever, but have done various peptides over the years. Mainly TB4 for an injury.
Currently: Out of shape and looking to supplement my road to sexy.

Pros: I have a basic understanding sports supplements and the food part of dieting I am solid.
Cons: I am overwhelmed by how many products there are, I struggle with alcohol abuse and the last couple years I have been a lazy fat ass.

I am currently titrating Treziptide. I have more of Treziptide plus Retatrutide on the way, but its only roughly 1-2 months worth.

I have read mixed things about stacking these type of drugs, many people love the Trez and Sema stack, others say its a waste. Either way, my plan is to apply the same principals to a Trez/Reta stack. Start at their lower dosage, do one of them every Sunday, the other one every Wednesday for a "mid week boost", and maintain that. Yes, I am fully aware of the risk associated with a trial product such as Reta.

So to my questions/concerns:

1. Hair loss! Do any of you stack this with something like RU58841 or Dutasteride to promote hair growth when losing weight rapidly?
2. Would GH or something like MK677 be advisable for overall better health?
3. Same question but for NAD+. Do people use both of NAD+ and MK677 at the same time with good results?
4. This one is personal, but the use of Trez has changed my life when it comes to being an alcoholic. I am 99.99% I will continue to at least maintain a dose for life to help me from relapsing. So my question is - will any combination of the above mess with or lower what Trez does to keep me from being a full fledge alchy?
5. I hear that ordering from Tracy takes a month or so, so I want to order soon, but I have never ordered from China. As far as i can tell, the chances of someone busting down my door in an FBI raid is basically zero, but how often does your stuff get seized by customs or lost in the mail? Other issues?
6. There seems to be a lot of peptides/supplements related around mood/depression/etc. Does anyone feel comfortable giving me an education on them or at least telling me a few to look at? Main issue is a severe lack of motivation, probably depressed.


I am naturally inclined to be more risky than less risky, I am in my late 30s and dont really need the "omg just put in the work you fat slob" speach. I maintained a 6 pack until my mid 20's, I know what it takes. I just dont have the mental capacity to put myself through it again without help.

I know the "right way" and I understand the risks for the "easy way". I am just looking for some knowledge to get my life back on track, if any of you would be so kind.

Goal is to reduce my BMI from 35%ish to near or under 20%.

 

[Valve]

You’ll likely want to max out your loss on tirzepatide before starting retarutide. It was posted elsewhere (GLP-1 mega thread I believe) that GLP-1 drugs need a 90 day wait before starting again at a lower dose. I also wouldn’t increase the dosage until you’ve plateaued at a particular dosage.

Read these forums and use the search feature, you’ll find science based evidence and anecdotal evidence answering many of your questions.

 

[roofer22]

I would start injecting 200mg/day of Glutathione..Your liver will thank you.
I take nad+ not with mk but with gh and I like the results.
You should be okay with a order to China but anything is possible.
Look into Semax and Selank for mood peptides. Maybe Oxytocin but I don't know much about it.

 

[Matts4313]

I would start injecting 200mg/day of Glutathione..Your liver will thank you.
I take nad+ not with mk but with gh and I like the results.
You should be okay with a order to China but anything is possible.
Look into Semax and Selank for mood peptides. Maybe Oxytocin but I don't know much about it.

I am reading that NAD+ needs a buffering solution or its painful to inject. Have you found that to be true?

 

[wedorecover]

What is trez ?

 

[Matts4313]

What is trez ?

Its me being stupid and not spell checking.

 

[wedorecover]

It’s me being stupid and not spell checking.

I think I read it wrong I thoght you were taking something that helpped u stay off alcohol

 

[Matts4313]

I think I read it wrong I thoght you were taking something that helpped u stay off alcohol

tirzepatide reduces cravings for alcohol to a manageable level, for me at least.

 

[wedorecover]

tirzepatide reduces cravings for alcohol to a manageable level, for me at least.

If u could send me a pm

 

[Matts4313]

I dont think I have PM privileges yet

 

[wedorecover]

I dont think I have PM privileges yet

I have 11 years clean from everything but I know someone that that may help I’m going to have to look more onto that what made u think to try that

 

[Valve]

I have 11 years clean from everything but I know someone that that may help I’m going to have to look more onto that what made u think to try that

Here is a link to an article about current research. There’s quite a bit of research going into GLP-1 drugs as treatment for nicotine, alcohol and cannabis addiction.

Scientific American

 

[Matts4313]

I have 11 years clean from everything but I know someone that that may help I’m going to have to look more onto that what made u think to try that

I see that Valve already provided a link for research, but I am pretty sure all three of the GL peptides (Sema, Tirz, Reta) are supposed to help alleviate that constant "noise"/craving that affects people with addiction. Its generally geared toward food addiction, but for me and many many others, it works for alcohol as well.

 

[NattyJuicer]

tirzepatide reduces cravings for alcohol to a manageable level, for me at least.

I've heard great things along being clean off alcohol and/or opioids and other recreational drugs mitigation. Being cerebrolysin.

 

[klong4]

Tirz has completely squashed my cravings for any alchol whatsoever, Marijuana, not so much.

It has also helped immensely with mood and overall clarity. Selank and Semax has also been a great help with this. Test E, at least for me, has had a significant effect as well.

You can also try ordering from another source, DM me, I have been getting my orders in 10 days or less from China and they are high quality from what I can tell so far.

 

[BigTomJ]

Here comes some tough love, im not ignorant to the situation youre in and while i personally havent dealt with this issues, ive seen them all around me in my own family.

Hello all,

Background: No steroids ever, but have done various peptides over the years. Mainly TB4 for an injury.
Currently: Out of shape and looking to supplement my road to sexy.

Look less for products, and focus more on executing on the basics

Pros: I have a basic understanding sports supplements and the food part of dieting I am solid.
Cons: I am overwhelmed by how many products there are, I struggle with alcohol abuse and the last couple years I have been a lazy fat ass.

Fix this with lifestyle adjustment, not drugs

I am currently titrating Treziptide. I have more of Treziptide plus Retatrutide on the way, but its only roughly 1-2 months worth.

I have read mixed things about stacking these type of drugs, many people love the Trez and Sema stack, others say its a waste. Either way, my plan is to apply the same principals to a Trez/Reta stack. Start at their lower dosage, do one of them every Sunday, the other one every Wednesday for a "mid week boost", and maintain that. Yes, I am fully aware of the risk associated with a trial product such as Reta.

Any benefits you gain from GLP-1 ag drugs will be completely gone when you stop the protocol if you dont make the appropriate lifestyle changes. And making those lifestyle changes will get you to your goals without them, rendering them either A) pointless or B) redundant.

So to my questions/concerns:

1. Hair loss! Do any of you stack this with something like RU58841 or Dutasteride to promote hair growth when losing weight rapidly?

you should not need to concern yourself with hair loss if not taking AAS unless youre genetically prone to it, in which case that you are, these drugs isnt going to stop it, only delay it.

2. Would GH or something like MK677 be advisable for overall better health?

no.

3. Same question but for NAD+. Do people use both of NAD+ and MK677 at the same time with good results?

MK677 is an entirely worthless product for any purpose other than stimulating appetite, which is counterproductive for you.

4. This one is personal, but the use of Trez has changed my life when it comes to being an alcoholic. I am 99.99% I will continue to at least maintain a dose for life to help me from relapsing. So my question is - will any combination of the above mess with or lower what Trez does to keep me from being a full fledge alchy?

seriously, join the program. thousands of people have been in the same place you have been, work the program for you and your loved ones sake.

5. I hear that ordering from Tracy takes a month or so, so I want to order soon, but I have never ordered from China. As far as i can tell, the chances of someone busting down my door in an FBI raid is basically zero, but how often does your stuff get seized by customs or lost in the mail? Other issues?

Id advise against relying on Chinese drug dealers to cover up your health issue.

6. There seems to be a lot of peptides/supplements related around mood/depression/etc. Does anyone feel comfortable giving me an education on them or at least telling me a few to look at? Main issue is a severe lack of motivation, probably depressed.

a lot of people in your situation feel that way, get in the gym, take a conscious effort in your nutrition, and focus on self improvement and youll be amazed at what that alone does for your mental health.

I am naturally inclined to be more risky than less risky, I am in my late 30s and dont really need the "omg just put in the work you fat slob" speach. I maintained a 6 pack until my mid 20's, I know what it takes. I just dont have the mental capacity to put myself through it again without help.

I know the "right way" and I understand the risks for the "easy way". I am just looking for some knowledge to get my life back on track, if any of you would be so kind.

Goal is to reduce my BMI from 35%ish to near or under 20%.

I get where you are coming from, dont look at it as "Right way"/"Easy way" look at it as the permanent way/temporary way.
This "Speech" isnt meant as some sort of gatekeeping or whatever, but lifelong poor lifestyle habits and especially addiction cant be solved with some quick fix bandaid.


If you are struggling with motivation and accountability and taking control of your life and your health and want to improve, ill coach you, for free, and get you on the right track without the drugs.