Old Mast E PIP

[Skarpyona]

Hey guys,

I had some old Mast E I decided to brew up. 6 years old, well stored in an airtight bag at room temperature with low humidity. Last night I pinned some of it with Test(1ml Test e 1ml mast e) and had some pip, just wondering if this is due to an increase in volume of gear in the injection sight, old stock, or my brew.

20g Mast E
2ml BA
20ml BB
61ml GSO

Filtered with .22 and came out nice and clear with a yellow hue.

On a scale of 1-10 I'd say it's about 5-6 painwise. No heating or redness, just painful.

Thanks in advance

 

[Jet Labs]

Are you sure the PIP isn't coming from the test-e cause LOTS of people including myself have been getting VERY bad PIP from various suppliers.

Perhaps do separate shots and see what's causing the pain and then you can just cut the painful stuff with other smooth stuff. And use glutes for stuff with bad PIP. Cheers

 

[TrennedOutLunatic]

Are you sure the PIP isn't coming from the test-e cause LOTS of people including myself have been getting VERY bad PIP from various suppliers.

Perhaps do separate shots and see what's causing the pain and then you can just cut the painful stuff with other smooth stuff. And use glutes for stuff with bad PIP. Cheers

This exactly.

 

[Skarpyona]

Thanks for the replies!

The test e I'm on for the past month has been smooth as butter, zero PIP whatsoever, however I suspect its slightly underdosed, which is why I'm brewing again to begin with. I ordered some Test Cyp for exactly this reason; been reading a lot of troubles with test e lately.

Been pinning in the glutes. It's been 20 hours since the pin, and it isn't getting worse, red, hot, or itchy

 

[Skarpyona]

Would filtering it a second time be worth it? I figured I'd give myself 2 weeks to see if its just Virgin muscles adjusting to the new volume of gear, then I'd try filtering it. If that doesn't help, I'd just cut down the concentration as I'd hate to toss good stock

 

[Nilatac]

Filtering again will not help with the PIP.
I have read that mast e can also give pip like test e but I didn't experience myself that
What have you described is a bad pip causing by E ester most likely not related with volume of gear or virgin muscle

 

[Skarpyona]

Filtering again will not help with the PIP.
I have read that mast e can also give pip like test e but I didn't experience myself that
What have you described is a bad pip causing by E ester most likely not related with volume of gear or virgin muscle

From what I have gathered, enenthate becomes more painful with time, with Test E being notorious for it. I didn't think Mast E would degrade like that as well. I'll chalk up the PIP to age, as when it was new, it didn't give any PIP. If the next few pins are equally painful, I'll either cut down the concentration or just toss it.

 

[Skarpyona]

So here's an update:

I decided to dilute my brew of masteron E to 150mg/ml and pinned it last night. Absolutely zero pip this morning. I'm happy that at the very least I can still use my old stock even if it's not as strong as I would like it to be.

 

[TrennedOutLunatic]

Thanks for the test and updating.
Very interesting!

 

[rrambo1]

I have some 200mg/ml Mast E... terrible pip.. maybe it's something with 200mg/ml Mast E

 

[Skarpyona]

I have some 200mg/ml Mast E... terrible pip.. maybe it's something with 200mg/ml Mast E

Maybe! I pawned off the batch of 200mg/ml to a buddy of mine, and after 2 weeks he says there isn't any PIP, so the body is capable of adapting to it

 

[rrambo1]

Maybe! I pawned off the batch of 200mg/ml to a buddy of mine, and after 2 weeks he says there isn't any PIP, so the body is capable of adapting to it

I can only hope... I have 4 vials of it