One Pharma: Bulk Cyp

[One Pharma]

Hey guys!

Decided it was time to open up ONE PHARMA, A bulk Test cyp lab

Product list:
TEST CYP 200-250mg/mL

30mL $110

50mL $175

100mL $330


Shipping will be $10

I will only sell in those quantities. This is supposed to be a lab that provides low prices on large orders on properly dosed gear. The reason the dosing is 200-250mg/mL is because there is no mass spec on this batch and I have assumed an 80% purity. This means I dosed it at 250mg/mL but since I am assuming 80% purity then you could be receiving anything in between. You are only paying for the lowest cost (200mg/mL). I have dug and dug and there does not seem to be one RELIABLE place that can do perform a mass spec.

Payments:

I’m still looking into a few options such as bitcoin but for now it will be vanilla reload and WU for orders over $500


Testing:

If someone, preferably a well known member, can provide a place that can MS and be reliable, they will receive 100mL free. Every time it is used for a new batch. A good MS is invaluable so this is reasonable I feel. Until a place is provided though, I will offer samples (these will be 10mL) to whichever WKM would like to step up and review them in exchange for store credit.


Brewing sterilization measures:

Autoclave

I looked into using a flow hood and did some reading. This appears to be a luxury and is not necessary as long as the environment you are in is free of air flow and you take measures to assure non-contamination (gloves, mask, autoclave). I even believe Someone in a thread mentioned Dr Scaly said a hood was unnecessary so long as proper precautions are taken.


Pictures:

Since I am not using a flow hood as of now that is irrelevant. As for the Autoclave, I have access to one that is not my own. I will not say where, or how, or take pictures of it as it is not mine or at my house. If there are enough people interested to make it worth the investment by all means I will get my own and show pics. But for now, the one I am using is much more state of the art then one I would be buying and the environment allows me to finish what I need to do.

Email:

I am looking at setting up countermail and will post this email within the next few days.


I have never had a handle here except this. I have only watched thread for a few months now and I have never sourced before anywhere.


A little about myself to those who did not see earlier thread, I have been homebrewing for several years now and wanted a way to make properly dosed gear for myself and others. The whole point was to have every batch mass spec’d and then sent. However, it appears that mass specs are extremely hard to find so I would love people to post proper bloodwork in exchange for store credit.


There is no minimum except that you must order at least a 30mL.


I believe this cover this Source Code of Conduct I found, but as we all know, a CoC should be fluid. That means if you feel the need for me to supply more that is your decision. That is within reason of course, not sending out a pic of my face and security will be numero uno.

 

[curgen]

Maybe this has been asked before and I missed it, but as a home brewer, have you ever had bloods done of your own? If so, can you share?

Good luck

 

[Marcus]

Why are you assuming 80% purity? It seems that the majority of labs out there are underdosed beyond this amount.

 

[Hillbilly111]

Ok so 100 ml. How is it packed? 10 10ml vials?

 

[One Pharma]

Maybe this has been asked before and I missed it, but as a home brewer, have you ever had bloods done of your own? If so, can you share?

Good luck

I have had bloods done, however, they were long time ago an no longer accessible which is why I never mentioned them.

Why are you assuming 80% purity? It seems that the majority of labs out there are underdosed beyond this amount.

I did a decent bit of checking and it appeared the few labs who actually had a MS or had bloodwork done seemed to be above the 80% range. There comes a point though where you just have to take a stab at what the lowest range you believe it to be where it is still pure enough to make. I chose 80% for this batch since there is no MS. I am currently working on getting one set up for this and the next batch but until then this is the best I can do.

As for packaging, I have a TON of leftover 10mL vials I filled before filling the 50s and 100s so those will be sent out first. So for a small while until supply of 10mL's run out, those will be used.

 

[Marcus]

I have had bloods done, however, they were long time ago an no longer accessible which is why I never mentioned them.



I did a decent bit of checking and it appeared the few labs who actually had a MS or had bloodwork done seemed to be above the 80% range. There comes a point though where you just have to take a stab at what the lowest range you believe it to be where it is still pure enough to make. I chose 80% for this batch since there is no MS. I am currently working on getting one set up for this and the next batch but until then this is the best I can do.

As for packaging, I have a TON of leftover 10mL vials I filled before filling the 50s and 100s so those will be sent out first. So for a small while until supply of 10mL's run out, those will be used.

I think you are looking more at the successful labs that aren't run off for having bunk gear upon arrival. If you look at all the raws out there from every lab... Let's use an arbitrary number of 10,000 labs. I'm MORE than willing to bet that about 85-90% of these labs have "bunk" gear, or raws that test at between 15-50% purity. What's to say that your raws aren't grouped in with this? How do you know batch to batch what you are getting?

Also, what were your bloods on your gear, even though u don't have access?

 

[Voltrader]

No MS hope 80% covers it. I get between to 200-250 so If I want 500 ew I COULD be doing 400. Lastly even at the 100ml level still works out to 33 bucks a vial. I thi k I could get a break from my current guys if I buy 10 vials not much of a deal there. I do not like how my risk reward is lining up here. Why do I want to order from you again.
Proceed with caution nobody knows this guy and he is brand new to the distribution game. Even though I understand what he is trying to do but it is hard to believe he will stick with cyp. Over under on when he asks what else he should brew then quickly spiral out of control with meso overload and greed. Your quality assurance is all ready shaky from the get go.

 

[One Pharma]

I think you are looking more at the successful labs that aren't run off for having bunk gear upon arrival. If you look at all the raws out there from every lab... Let's use an arbitrary number of 10,000 labs. I'm MORE than willing to bet that about 85-90% of these labs have "bunk" gear, or raws that test at between 15-50% purity. What's to say that your raws aren't grouped in with this? How do you know batch to batch what you are getting?

Also, what were your bloods on your gear, even though u don't have access?

When I had those bloods taken I was running 500mg a week split sun/thurs and bloods were drawn Tuesday morning. Test levels came back in the 4200's (its been a while, dont remember exactly) I am looking at changing prices after I can negotiate with my supplier for the next larger order.

 

[Marcus]

When I had those bloods taken I was running 500mg a week split sun/thurs and bloods were drawn Tuesday morning. Test levels came back in the 4200's (its been a while, dont remember exactly) I am looking at changing prices after I can negotiate with my supplier for the next larger order.

So you have the hook on pharma grade test? Because that's what those bloods confirm. I'm going to go ahead and call bullshit if that's alright with you

 

[One Pharma]

So you have the hook on pharma grade test? Because that's what those bloods confirm. I'm going to go ahead and call bullshit if that's alright with you

I wish I did. I've seen several bloods and these levels are certainly not out of the ordinary. According to what Dr Scaly said, these levels are under what peak value should be at.

 

[Marcus]

I wish I did. I've seen several bloods and these levels are certainly not out of the ordinary. According to what Dr Scaly said, these levels are under what peak value should be at.

Yes, on well-dosed gear. Astro had his mass-speced at 97% purity about a month ago around the same time bloods were coming back within this range give or take 100ng/ml. Which I believe is almost comparable to pharma grade

 

[Colt44]

So you just guessed 80% huh? Rutman, is that you? Come on guy. You were told it was a bad idea for a source to estimate. Test it or don't send it. You even used it in your sales pitch. What's your plan to compensate when it turns out your 80% is actually 30%?

 

[One Pharma]

So you just guessed 80% huh? Rutman, is that you? Come on guy. You were told it was a bad idea for a source to estimate. Test it or don't send it. You even used it in your sales pitch. What's your plan to compensate when it turns out your 80% is actually 30%?

If a source sells 30% they should be burned at the stake. I have used this sources powder for a long time and know it to be well over 30%. Previous bloods were from this sources powder. The reason they were not mentioned is also that a blood test coming from me means close to nothing. I am finalizing a MS on the product, hopefully I can get that all done, with results, in less than 2 weeks and I will have it posted.

 

[BrownTown]

What your trying to accomplish is a great idea and I'm definitely not trying to hate on you but you really should've had all your ducks in a row before trying to create this venture. As a consumer buying your product I don't want to have to guesstimate my dose and not know what the hell I'm running.

You should honestly set your ms up first, test your products and if it's good adjust from there. Also, pricing for your product could be lower since you don't have as much overhead as you would with more esters and products. Your model could work but I don't feel it will work this way. Just my 2 cents....

 

[Marcus]

How do you plan on convincing us your MS is not faked as well since this is a common practice

 

[AchieveGreatness]

Post pictures of vials with your labels?

 

[One Pharma]

What your trying to accomplish is a great idea and I'm definitely not trying to hate on you but you really should've had all your ducks in a row before trying to create this venture. As a consumer buying your product I don't want to have to guesstimate my dose and not know what the hell I'm running.

You should honestly set your ms up first, test your products and if it's good adjust from there. Also, pricing for your product could be lower since you don't have as much overhead as you would with more esters and products. Your model could work but I don't feel it will work this way. Just my 2 cents....

I would have loved to have done that. I actually created a thread a week ago and asked if anyone had a mass spec laying around or access to one and did not get a single reply. I checked on using angus and his are unreliable. These things seem to be extremely hard to find. I would love one as much as you, I just found out about someone who has access and I am looking into getting that completed now.

How do you plan on convincing us your MS is not faked as well since this is a common practice

Short answer? I can't can I? Everyone knows I have no way of proving that a mass spec is real. Short of people having bloods done on their own there is nothing else they will believe and that is ok.

 

[One Pharma]

Post pictures of vials with your labels?

I will post those tonight.

 

[Marcus]

I would have loved to have done that. I actually created a thread a week ago and asked if anyone had a mass spec laying around or access to one and did not get a single reply. I checked on using angus and his are unreliable. These things seem to be extremely hard to find. I would love one as much as you, I just found out about someone who has access and I am looking into getting that completed now.



Short answer? I can't can I? Everyone knows I have no way of proving that a mass spec is real. Short of people having bloods done on their own there is nothing else they will believe and that is ok.

True true, good answer

 

[One Pharma]

Alright got email set up: you can get ahold of me by pm or email now

onepharma@countermail.com

Whenever the time comes for someone to order, please just send the amount in mL you wish to purchase and I will know what you mean. (do so in multiples of 30,50,100)