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nbois

nbois

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My schedule is 6am-3pm mma training then I lift from 9pm-12am 6 days a week. I hit every body part 2 sometimes 3x a week I'm worried I might be lifting to much when I lift I go all out every time I'm really bad at having easy days. Another huge problem in having is in getting bigger but not stronger and I can't do squats or dead lifts with heavy weights I mean I can only do 100lbs without feeling like my balls are going to blow out doctor says everything is fine but when sometimes I'll feel a pop in my stomach only with squats and dead lifts tho. I'm also very tired I sleep from 4pm-7pm than 2- 5am my cycle is 20mg dbol ed 300 test cyp ew 300mg decca ew 500 EQew my diet is clean and on point. Not sure why I'm not gaining strength and need to know if I should not lift so much since you grow when you rest and all
 
You cannot train for strength and endurance and size at the same time. "Clean and on point" diet means you should be eating triple what you eat with this training schedule. You don't sleep enough. More than two hours in the gym is excessive. Get a job maybe? Figure out what your goals are and train towards them.

Other than that obvious over training and the aforementioned issues you are good to go

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the lifting does sound very excessive. Maybe look into a full-body 3x per week strength program. there are many great, free programs out there. I always advocate this for athletes.

Sleep is huge too, as brutus said. I would strongly recommend doing whatever you can to rearrange your schedule so that you can get ~8 straight hours of sleep every night.
 
Overtraining? You mean undergaining. You want strength then figure out how to get around this problem you have with squats and deadlifts because you can't be truly strong without those two gems. You are spinning your wheels constantly and don't realize that the coasting time isn't time wasted it's time earned to recover. You should be getting 8hr of sleep in a row not couple naps here and there.
 
I read an article a few months ago you would have really liked that applies to your question but couldn't find it. It was about a guy that trained for a year or two in Japan for some form of martial arts. The training was extremely grueling, hours upon hours of training everyday. The author wrote about his fear of overtraining while taking part in this experience and he was instructed to start a regimen of drinking bone broth everyday. He made it through to the end of his stay in Japan very successfully and attributed the success to drinking bone broth daily. Something to check into possibly. I've done it here and there particularly in the winter especially added to rice.

With sleep and good nutrition I have never been concerned with overtraining myself no matter how much I train.
 
^^^ rodgerthat is absolutely right.
Rest is just as important as training.
If you don't give your body the chance to heal and recover you're just leaving your gains on the table.
All that training, all that sacrifice for nothing.
You gotta rearrange your schedule, you're gonna burn out soon and running gear as you are is nothing but a waste.
You're playing with your endocrine system and not even seeing the results.
The risk- benefit ratio is not on your favor right now.
Sit down and reconsider your routines. Rest and proper nutrition are key when training for anything, even more so when gear is involved.
 
Eman said:
I read an article a few months ago you would have really liked that applies to your question but couldn't find it. It was about a guy that trained for a year or two in Japan for some form of martial arts. The training was extremely grueling, hours upon hours of training everyday. The author wrote about his fear of overtraining while taking part in this experience and he was instructed to start a regimen of drinking bone broth everyday. He made it through to the end of his stay in Japan very successfully and attributed the success to drinking bone broth daily. Something to check into possibly. I've done it here and there particularly in the winter especially added to rice.

With sleep and good nutrition I have never been concerned with overtraining myself no matter how much I train.
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I would love to this message me if you ever find it. I'll take a look into it forsure!

I am a pro fighter training is my job and I'm a single father that's why I have to have a weird schedule I would love to be able to get more rest but the only training I can cut back on is my lifting schedule. I am consuming 3x my normal diet and do kettle bells and other things to make up for the squats and dead lifts I do still do them just light weight high reps then heavy kettle bells and single leg loaded squats stuff like that. Would it be better to split my lifting up before and after training so then I get longer rest time?
 
ruckin said:
the lifting does sound very excessive. Maybe look into a full-body 3x per week strength program. there are many great, free programs out there. I always advocate this for athletes.

Sleep is huge too, as brutus said. I would strongly recommend doing whatever you can to rearrange your schedule so that you can get ~8 straight hours of sleep every night.
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I'll check them thanks bro
 
nbois said:
I would love to this message me if you ever find it. I'll take a look into it forsure!

I am a pro fighter training is my job and I'm a single father that's why I have to have a weird schedule I would love to be able to get more rest but the only training I can cut back on is my lifting schedule. I am consuming 3x my normal diet and do kettle bells and other things to make up for the squats and dead lifts I do still do them just light weight high reps then heavy kettle bells and single leg loaded squats stuff like that. Would it be better to split my lifting up before and after training so then I get longer rest time?
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You won't get longer rest time by putting weights before and after your training lol... You'll still be training an equal length of time really. Too much.

I don't practice your sport but 3 hours in the gym is about twice as long as I would ever be lifting weights in your position. I couldn't agree more with @ruckin as to how you could adjust programing. Sounds so much more efficient.

How many calories are you at? Just curious.

@Hughesythelegend might have some suggestions to help you dial things in, he was/is a fighter also.
 
I do have trainers and the problem more lies in I want to workout more then I should but don't quite know what my limits need to be when I'm not on cycle i can tell when it's time to slow down but with gear I can't stop. Also thanks I'll send him a message I'm sure he will be a huge help
 
Hughesythelegend said:
Hi chaps thanks for the add what can I help with? @Eman @RodgerThat
@nbois just for the record the fact that Eman and Rodgerthat have jumped in and commented means your in good hands here! as I hold their knowledge and comments in high regard.
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Hughesy - what kind of weight training did you do when you were fighting? I remember you saying you were careful with your diet too so I'm guessing your training sessions weren't lasting so long. @nbois on the other hand should be able to eat an extra large pizza and a bucket of fried chicken everyday and be still under fed.
 
Ok well I fought at lightweight which is 70kg and walked around at 85kg or 90kg if I was being lazy! So the training was intense it would be 2-3 hours every night and with top pros. I worked shift patterns so if I had some mornings off I would concentrate on my strength training also so worked out at 1-2hours Morning weights and cardio then 2-3 hours evening fighting which is major over training however not knowing what your next opponent is doing makes you train harder!!
My weight training was not BB, it was snatches, clean and press, shoulder press, squat, prowler runs, sand bag throwing, Med ball throwing and done kettle bells but having muscle does not help you win fights!!! Your either a body builder or a fighter not both! Especially with weight and water cuts. My pro record was 14-2 with a detached retina ending my career last year hence the move to bodybuilding. Fortunately my body looked like a bodybuilders body when I fought so the transition wasn't hard. I wish I could reveal my name and you could go on google and YouTube and see who I am. However enough about me....
Eat clean while you train and have your cheat days it's only when cutting or maintaining a weight with a fight coming up you need to lower your calories do i would go from 2500/3000 down to 600/1000 a day!! Not healthy and then cut 7kg in water!! Keep your weight training relevant bicep curls and tricep dips won't help win fights they slow you down! Compound movements is what's needed. Weights 2-3 times a week the rest is cardio and boxing/grappling/mma/Bjj so you gain strength from those too. I hope this helps guys.
 
Also for the record I had random blood and urine tests which gives a clue on the promotion I used to fight on ;-) so never used AAS until finishing fighting. Was fighting for nearly a decade.

OP drop the decca and Dbol for fighting!!! I never used anything if you are pro like you say do you not get checked? You are definitely over training brother!! You must drop one training session in favour of another. What weight do you fight at?
 
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@Hughesythelegend my last fight was the beginning of April so I won't be having another fight for about 6 months and 3 of those will be out of country at training camp. Record 25-11-1 6KO. Right now I'm training to get my weight back up for my last fight I had to drop 20lbs and lost a lot of strength and muscle, I normally fight at my weight I don't do cuts but this fight was an exception. My normal training is 6am-9am cardio, footwork 9-10 bjj 10-12 muay thai 12-1 rest lunch 1-3 boxing 4pm PT 5-9 rest eat hang out with family 9-12 lifting, balance, core work and strenghting injurys
 
nbois said:
@Hughesythelegend my last fight was the beginning of April so I won't be having another fight for about 6 months and 3 of those will be out of country at training camp. Record 25-11-1 6KO. Right now I'm training to get my weight back up for my last fight I had to drop 20lbs and lost a lot of strength and muscle, I normally fight at my weight I don't do cuts but this fight was an exception. My normal training is 6am-9am cardio, footwork 9-10 bjj 10-12 muay thai 12-1 rest lunch 1-3 boxing 4pm PT 5-9 rest eat hang out with family 9-12 lifting, balance, core work and strenghting injurys
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are you pro yet? and if you are pro yet, how many of those fights of 25-11-1 were pro...and how old are you again?
 
That's a high record what shows have you fought on? I'm from the UK but have fought over your way ;-) I'm guessing you have a good gym with guys with experience you must learn from them I personally think your over training! if your not on 6 digit figures for each fight then you need to sack off some of that training time. I am a work horse too like most guys on here I physically have to be dragged out of the gym however the saying think smart fight smart come into play. I have never fought on AAS so I'm not sure how responsive it can be to help with your game but it's still a lot of stress on your body mate personally If I was to go back fighting id stop AAS use and concentrate on skills and learning more. Can you cut some of your training down? You ain't got a fight coming up so you don't need to be doing 3 hours of cardio in the morning!!! Remember fight training is like a stair case you move up one step at a time and reach your peak a week or two from your fight not when your on a few months downtime.
 
Hughesythelegend said:
That's a high record what shows have you fought on? I'm from the UK but have fought over your way ;-) I'm guessing you have a good gym with guys with experience you must learn from them I personally think your over training! if your not on 6 digit figures for each fight then you need to sack off some of that training time. I am a work horse too like most guys on here I physically have to be dragged out of the gym however the saying think smart fight smart come into play. I have never fought on AAS so I'm not sure how responsive it can be to help with your game but it's still a lot of stress on your body mate personally If I was to go back fighting id stop AAS use and concentrate on skills and learning more. Can you cut some of your training down? You ain't got a fight coming up so you don't need to be doing 3 hours of cardio in the morning!!! Remember fight training is like a stair case you move up one step at a time and reach your peak a week or two from your fight not when your on a few months downtime.
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it's more so me not wanting to stop I love all training and for AAS I wanted EQ for joints I'm older and my career will be over in a couple more yrs I just want to push it as long as I can there are amazing guys I train with and my coaches but as I'm sure you know there are things you want to talk about with out it getting spilled into media and you honestly can trust anyone in this career no matter how good of friends you are there's a price tag for anything plus it's nice to have people to talk to that will give honest opinions and I'll pm you shows
 
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