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pattylifts

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What's up guys. Been on the board for a few months but took a break directly after joining because I had no source and worked on my basketball game.

Anyways through the good ole gym I go to, I finally found a source. From what he says it's pharmaceutical and called "ghp".... 275mg/ml a 10 ml vial of testosterone enanthate.

My plan?
To buy 3. Run it 12 weeks
I can get Clomid as my pct

Here's my dilemma. I have no source for an a.I. of any sort and no way to get h.c.g.

I am fairly thin, and never had gyno problems through puberty (i am 22) but would still like to play it safe. However, I just did read one test study. It was done with testosterone enanthate at 300mg and 600mg...The people in the study never used arimidex or anything like that and they were fine.. Any experience without it? Is the risk worth it?

I would love feedback from the vets. I am willing to help make an excellent log for everybody. That includes pictures, bloods, and weekly measurements. Any feedback before I start, or if I should hold off is greatly appreciated.

Stats
5 foot 8 inches
161Lbs
White but
Can almost dunk
Bench 1.5 times my body weight 1x
Squat rep 275... 225 with bands
 
1. Your young, its not worth it.
2. Your thin, you haven't put in thw work yet.
3. Your diet wasn't mentioned.
4. Your pct plan sucks.

Go back to the drawing board and do 50x more research
 
1. Your young, its not worth it.
2. Your thin, you haven't put in thw work yet.
3. Your diet wasn't mentioned.
4. Your pct plan sucks.

Go back to the drawing board and do 50x more research

You're ***** right my pct plan is not great that's why I asked for advice on an A.I.!!!!!

2 weeks after my last pin I expect to dose Clomid at 75/50/50/50... Should be more clear my bad.

About the experience... Dude I hover around 160 to 162 with 10-11% body fat. Its not like I never touched weight or don't know how to diet. Those stats at 5 8 are pretty good natural. Been weight training for over 4 years.

My diet lately has been consisting of 75 carbs double fat and as much protein as possible to drop my body fat before cycle. I don't want my body to go into ketosis by dropping below the 50 carb threshold right before cycle.

I know how to diet man don't question that. Protein won't be an issue. I work at gnc lol I know it's a joke but still I have all the joint support needed.

I could blow up to 180 with 13 percent bf and look like the fuckin Michelin man but I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be the brightest move. This is really only about an a.I. and any other tips
 
adding a timeframe doesnt make the pct plan better. Clomid nolva and hcg is the best choice. Hence why u still need to research, or if ur balls aren't important then whatever have fun with no boners.

Read the pct area stickies
 
@pattylifts

22 is to young I think. I was 22 first cycle. I had a shit cycle no pct and a shit diet. End result I lost it all and took forever to recover. How much test-e u taking a week. How many injections a week? You say your diet is on point. Is it really? What about your workout routine? How many sets how many reps? What spilt u running? DO NOT RUN WITHOUT A AI ON HAND. you might get some nice boobs otherwise. Only clomid for pct? You gonna fuk yourself up and might not recover.
Atleast you are only doing test that is one good thing I guess.
 
your not to young to do AAS. AAS puts your body into a perfect state to grow muscle. you have to do the hard work by training, diet, and rest. 2g protein per pound of body weight minimum everyday.
 
You shouldn't fuck up a good thing but if you must do the following
1. Look up the the thread on here for European pharmaceuticals... You WILL AT LEAST need pharma clomid and nolva.

2.Also please get your bloods done pre cycle and post cycle to see your starting point and if you returned back to normal. I can't stress enough how important that is. There is a thread on here about the basics of blood work with a coupon code it's about $50 each test

3. Cycle 12 weeks
Week 1-12 test e 1ml 2x week (Monday morning & Thursday evening or something similar)
Weeks 13-14 nothing at all waiting for test e to clear your body
Weeks 15-18 PCT
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Around week 24 get post cycle bloods done

Better to reconsider all this until you know more you can fuck your self up running AAS without knowing what you are doing

You are benefiting from the kinder and gentler FWO lol
 
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You shouldn't fuck up a good thing but if you must do the following
1. Look up the the thread on here for European pharmaceuticals... You WILL AT LEAST need pharma clomid and nolva.

2.Also please get your bloods done pre cycle and post cycle to see your starting point and if you returned back to normal. I can't stress enough how important that is. There is a thread on here about the basics of blood work with a coupon code it's about $50 each test

3. Cycle 12 weeks
Week 1-12 test e 1ml 2x week (Monday morning & Thursday evening or something similar)
Weeks 13-14 nothing at all waiting for test e to clear your body
Weeks 15-18 PCT
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Around week 24 get post cycle bloods done

Better to reconsider all this until you know more you can fuck your self up running AAS without knowing what you are doing

You are benefiting from the kinder and gentler FWO lol
FWO, this was well put.

Always, always, always spend the extra $5 or whatever on pharma pct and AI. No reason to trust the UGL's to have their shit together and fuck yourself up. Bunk/underdosed gear, most oftentimes life goes on as normal. Swap that with some bunk PCT, your life just became a lot more complicated.


Be safe my dude. But I genuinely agree with the other posters, consider getting big natty. That first cycle will feel much better if you've already attained a physique naturally.
 
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