PCT and Anxiety

[Loupags1]

I'm a 55 year old male 196 lbs, not sure of the body fat percentage but I'm not over weight by any means.

2 weeks ago I came off of a mild 12 week Test Cyp cycle of 200mg pinned every 4 days. I started my PCT the day after my last pin. I've been taking 7 capsules of HCGenerate for the past 2 weeks. I was taking .5 ml Aromasin EOD but stoped a few days ago. I have 20mg capsules of Nolvadex that I plan to take 1 per day starting in 2 days. I've been waiting 2 weeks to start taking them since this seems to be the protocol form the research I've read. I've been experiencine some anxiety the past 2 days. I'm assuming this is some kind of hormonal imbalance since I've stopped my gear cycle almost 2 weeks ago. When I did my mid blood work is showed I had a high level of estrogen in the high 60's so I uped my Aromsin to .05 every day. So my question is will taking the nolvadex help fix the anxiety problem and hormonal problem I might be experiencing since coming off the gear? Also should I continue taking the aromasin every other day like I was taking durring my cycle?

 

[Holidaypay]

test cyp takes a couple weeks to get out of your system your supposed to wait till its gone to start pct an i dont think u will need the aromasin but im not positive someone that knows more will prob chime in soon gl

 

[Loupags1]

test cyp takes a couple weeks to get out of your system your supposed to wait till its gone to start pct an i dont think u will need the aromasin but im not positive someone that knows more will prob chime in soon gl

In the PCT threads that I have read it said to start the HCGeneration day one and the Nolva 2 weeks after last pin. Thats why I've waited 2 weeks to start the Nolvadex capsules. I've only lost 2lbs and haven't lost any power yet. Just Mentally feeling like shit at this point. Very moody and some anxiety. It sux

 

[Holidaypay]

ok i could be wrong i dont know much about hcg more of a clomid person but the mood swings could be do to the high estro i have heard it can can cause mood swings an the anxiety might be due to ur test being low but im not sure honestly im suprised nobody else chimed in yet maybe dr jim can help u figure out wats going on try shooting him a pm

 

[Loupags1]

Anyone out there that can help with my questions?

 

[Eman]

Anyone out there that can help with my questions?

1. Throw the hcgenerate into the trashcan and consider it a lesson learned.
2. Acquire clomid and Nolva, pharm grade.
3. Determine when proper PCT should start... I'll give you a hint, it's not the day after last pin.
4. Stop taking aromasin.

 

[Mezzano]

Agrred^

You paid for the cycle and put the time and effort in to put on the mass. Don't skimp out on arguably the most important part...pct.
Not worth effing with your body...get pharm grade nolva and clomid today

 

[Loupags1]

Any sugge

Agrred^

You paid for the cycle and put the time and effort in to put on the mass. Don't skimp out on arguably the most important part...pct.
Not worth effing with your body...get pharm grade nolva and clomid today

Any suggestion on where to get pharm grade nova and clomid?

 

[Eman]

Any sugge


Any suggestion on where to get pharm grade nova and clomid?

Go to the underground subforum... There's a ton of suppliers right on the first page. Click on a few, see if the reviews look okay, then pull the trigger.

 

[Loupags1]

Go to the underground subforum... There's a ton of suppliers right on the first page. Click on a few, see if the reviews look okay, then pull the trigger.

Thank you I really appreciate it. I have Nolva 20 mg caps already just not sure its pharm grade. I didn't start taking it yet because from what I read I'm supposed to wait two weeks from my last pin to start taking it

 

[Eman]

Thank you I really appreciate it. I have Nolva 20 mg caps already just not sure its pharm grade. I didn't start taking it yet because from what I read I'm supposed to wait two weeks from my last pin to start taking it

If you post a picture I can tell you if it's pharma, unless it is fake but I really don't hear about that too often.

Two weeks from last pin is still early. Look at the graph below, you want the exogenous testosterone to essentially have left your system or be at a low level... Otherwise, PCT won't be effective. The numbers on bottom are days and the blue is a representation of the hormone in your system.

 

[Loupags1]

If you post a picture I can tell you if it's pharma, unless it is fake but I really don't hear about that too often.

Two weeks from last pin is still early. Look at the graph below, you want the exogenous testosterone to essentially have left your system or be at a low level... Otherwise, PCT won't be effective. The numbers on bottom are days and the blue is a representation of the hormone in your system.

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Wow according to the graph I shouldn't start PCT until at.least 60 days from last pin. I just got bloods done today so in a few days I'll have a better idea where I stand on levels. I will also post a picture of the bottle of Nova I have

 

[Eman]

Wow according to the graph I shouldn't start PCT until at.least 60 days from last pin

No... Peak to trough is closer to 30 days on that graph. (Day 55 - Day 82.5) A full 30 days isn't necessary, 20 days is good.

 

[Loupags1]

No... Peak to trough is closer to 30 days on that graph. (Day 55 - Day 82.5) A full 30 days isn't necessary, 20 days is good.

Gotcha thank you. Sorry to be so needy but I have one more question. In your opinion do I definitely need to get clomid or will I be okay just taking the Nova? I've read that clomid has a few bad side effects

 

[Eman]

Gotcha thank you. Sorry to be so needy but I have one more question. In your opinion do I definitely need to get clomid or will I be okay just taking the Nova? I've read that clomid has a few bad side effects

Define "need".

Will you die if you don't take clomid? No. Will you never recover if you don't take it? Highly unlikely.

Will recovery be more difficult? Possibly.

Clomid, despite it's side effects, is superior to nolva for PCT, IMO. I've never gotten any noticeable sides from it... Some people do. Just depends I guess.

If you're comfortable using Nolva only, go for it. Better make sure it's legit though...

 

[Loupags1]

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Define "need".

Will you die if you don't take clomid? No. Will you never recover if you don't take it? Highly unlikely.

Will recovery be more difficult? Possibly.

Clomid, despite it's side effects, is superior to nolva for PCT, IMO. I've never gotten any noticeable sides from it... Some people do. Just depends I guess.

If you're comfortable using Nolva only, go for it. Better make sure it's legit though...

Thnx again I really appreciate your help. I will send you a pic of the Nova when I get home. Also got bloods done today so that I can see what my current levels are and maybe figure out what's causing the anxiety and slight depression. My mids showed a Total Test of 2430 and Estrogen was 88 without taking an AI. This was in July. After seeing Estro that high I started taking Aromisn .5 eod and I felt better. I'm assuming my Estrogen is high again and is why I feel anxiety and depression now.

 

[Eman]

I'm assuming my Estrogen is high again and is why I feel anxiety and depression now

What makes you think your estrogen is high aside from anxiety? Your estro isn't going to be going up now that testosterone has been removed.

 

[Loupags1]

What makes you think your estrogen is high aside from anxiety? Your estro isn't going to be going up now that testosterone has been removed.

I thought that Test Cyp was a long ester and stays in the system longer. Plus I'm taking a Test Booster. I also have some itchyness of the nipples. My mid bloods showed estrogen at 88 before an AI was taken. Haven't had blood checked untill today so looking forward to the results.