Pharmacom 2nd cycle

[H Ng]

Hi, next May i'm going to start the second cycle and I need some advice.

An overview from my first cycle
I started with 500 Test E/week for 12 weeks
Dbol 40mg every day for 6 weeks
Aromasin 25mg/e3d
PCT

Stat before first cycle: 135lb, 5'6, 15% bf
After the first cycle, I gained 20lbs and maintained bf at 15%. After PCT, I kept most of my gain but I'm trying to cut some more water weight and fat before coming to second cycle. I'm aiming at losing 5 more lbs so I'll start second cycle at 145lbs.

My goal in the second cycle is that I want to gain around 10-15lbs of lean mass and increase muscle hardness and definition. Therefore, I come up this stack for 10 weeks cycle

Test E 500/week for 10 weeks
Tren E 400/week
50mg dbol/everyday for the first 4 weeks (probably extend to 6 weeks)
Aromasin 25/e3d
PCT

All gear is from Pharmacom

I still have 4 weeks to go so I think I need to get some feedback from y'all for this cycle. Any advice or questions would be greatly appreciated.

 

[high-octane]

Bro, you could have gained that naturally with the right diet. How old are you? At your weight gear would be the last thing I used. Gain naturally until you hit that brick wall.

 

[H Ng]

Bro, you could have gained that naturally with the right diet. How old are you? At your weight gear would be the last thing I used. Gain naturally until you hit that brick wall.

i'm 27. I wanted to use gear when I was 22 but I was afraid of side effects so I waited until I turn 27. I tried to gain naturally but it didn't work out well. My maximum weight I could reach before using gear is 135lbs. I believed that I had low natural testosterone level so I think gear would be my last option.

 

[PIZZABOY]

Sorry, I was going to say something,thought about it, don't want go off half cocked. When did your first cycle end? Was it phrmacon too? Domestic?

 

[DonQKong]

I've done the short enanthate cycles myself, but I wouldn't do it again. With juice on enanthate, it takes 7-8 weeks before it really starts working, so effectively, if it wasn't for your DBOL, you get 2-3 weeks effectively out of that cycle.

My only advice the last 4 weeks is, train like a mofo, eat like a cannibal. And plan for at least 12 weeks next time you do enanthate-only.

DQ

 

[H Ng]

I've done the short enanthate cycles myself, but I wouldn't do it again. With juice on enanthate, it takes 7-8 weeks before it really starts working, so effectively, if it wasn't for your DBOL, you get 2-3 weeks effectively out of that cycle.

My only advice the last 4 weeks is, train like a mofo, eat like a cannibal. And plan for at least 12 weeks next time you do enanthate-only.

DQ

I will increase my cycle to 12 weeks according to your advice. The reason I want to do just 10 weeks because i dont want to spend extra couple of hundred dollars on the gear for 12 weeks.

 

[H Ng]

Sorry, I was going to say something,thought about it, don't want go off half cocked. When did your first cycle end? Was it phrmacon too? Domestic?

It was from europharma

 

[PIZZABOY]

I like the long cycle idea, like DQ said TRAIN hard, eat,eat,eat. Cardio is good to warm up,save the intense sessions for later. Get lots sleep. Get the meat on your bones first, trim the fat later. Good gear helps, don't try to save money there, try to save on food, buy in bulk,prep meals ahead of time. If your not sick of the sight of food,and taking huge #2's twice a day,your not eating enough.

 

[HowieDoIt]

I will increase my cycle to 12 weeks according to your advice. The reason I want to do just 10 weeks because i dont want to spend extra couple of hundred dollars on the gear for 12 weeks.

It's not a cheap process, you may as well dish out the extra cash and do it right so you get full benefits from the cycle.

 

[Sk8man101]

I will increase my cycle to 12 weeks according to your advice. The reason I want to do just 10 weeks because i dont want to spend extra couple of hundred dollars on the gear for 12 weeks.

Dude two weeks of test 500/week should cost you like less than 20 bucks.
When compared to the cost of bloods, pct, and food, this is nothing.

 

[SenorSuperdrol]

Maybe it's just me but I think you could be gaining naturally still at 145.

 

[hyty666]

think about that tren e bro ... I've been on it for 5 weeks and it's brutal man.. depressed and tired as shit constantly.. horrible moods and the pip sux lol

 

[fldoms980]

135lb

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