[Pharmacom] Test Cyp 500mg [10 weeks] [03/2017]

[JKinetic]

Starting my first cycle and thought it'd be a good idea to post a log here. I spent a lot of time trying to understand what the most reliable sources of online information are for AAS, which is why I'm posting here and not some other board.

First, some basic information:
Age: 27
Height: 5' 11"
Weight: 170lbs
Bodyfat: 10-15%

I've been training for about 4-5 years with periods of extreme dedication and more recently more sporadic streaks of training, with my peak weight being 180lbs. Eating enough has ALWAYS been an issue for me, even including during periods of substantially intense, heavy-load training. I've just never been able to consume enough calories consistently in order to put on weight.

While I'm by no means an expert, I am a self learner and have spent a lot of time understanding training methodologies, diet, and nutrition, so at age 27 I with several years of training under my belt, I feel I sufficiently understand my body enough to take the plunge into AAS.

My First Cycle: 10 weeks on, 4 weeks off, 6 weeks PCT
Weeks 1-10: Testosterone Cypionate (2 intramuscular injections x 250mg/wk)
Weeks 2-10: HCG (2 subcutaneous injections x 250iu/wk)
Weeks 14-20: Nolvadex (20mg ED)

I will be logging my experiences in this thread semi-regularly throughout the total 20 weeks. Feel free to check in but this is primarily for my own reference as well as a chance for me to log question that come up along the way.

Thanks for stopping by, any comments, questions, or advice are welcome!

 

[JKinetic]

Week 1: First time pinning

I pinned yesterday (Sunday) for the first time ever. Was absolutely scared shitless, but after I gave myself enough time to mentally prepare, everything went really smooth.

I'm drawing using a 1.5" 20 gauge needle, and then injecting using a 5/8" 25 gauge. Because I have pretty low bodyfat, and I'm pinning in my quads, where I naturally store very little fat, I figured I could get away with a shorter needle.

I got the syringe setup and then let it sit in a hot cup of water to warm the oil, during which time I took to get my nerves under control. Once I was ready, I located the upper, and outer sweep of my right quad, pinched the muscle between my left hand (read others suggest that this helped them reduce PIP), and then injected using my right, making sure to aspirate prior to injecting.

Injection with the 25" needle took about 7-10 seconds of firm pushing, but I anticipated this. After withdrawing, there was almost no blood.

I think everything went as expected, which was a relief. Today (Monday), I had zero PIP. I also hit legs post injection yesterday, so it's possible that any minor PIP is hiding behind my DOMS.

 

[DrinkFlintWater]

Good luck bro! Give it a few times...pinning will be the easiest part of this process..

 

[JKinetic]

Thanks man, I hope so. Shit was nerve-wracking.

Edit: I should also mention that I'll be getting bloodwork done tomorrow which will serve as my pre-cycle baseline (should be thrown off very little, if at all being only 2 days after my first injection). Then I'll get them done again post cycle.

I live in Massachusetts, which is a state that doesn't allow me to send in for lab work using the online labs that people on Meso suggest, so I'm just going through my doctor. Told them I want to get blood work done prior to getting my annual physical.

 

[test>tren]

5/8'' inch is awfully short, i'd very much suggest getting at least a 1 inch needle for future pinning, less chance of something going wrong. Good luck!

 

[Cramps88]

Good luck. I also like to pin quads and I still like to use a 25 gauge at 1.5 inches. 5/8 seems way to short imo. As far as diet goes figure out your goals find a base line and adjust when necessary. If I see gains coming slowly then I usually adjust what my intake is. There is a good nutrition section in the forums and plenty of people around here that will be happy to help.

 

[CAswole]

I only use 5/8 for delts. But to be safe just get some 25g 1". U can use em for any spot. And am i wrong when i read that u got your "pre cycle" bloods after you did your first pin?

 

[Cramps88]

Yes how are you supposed to get accurate results from that? Pre cycle bloods are tantamount to your continued health.

 

[CAswole]

Yes how are you supposed to get accurate results from that? Pre cycle bloods are tantamount to your continued health.

So i did read that right? So they're not pre bloods then

 

[Cramps88]

Yes he said he is going to get bloods after he already pinned.

 

[Cramps88]

@JKinetic. Remember to also consider a mid cycle blood test as well so you can see whether or not you need to make adjustments and to see where your other blood levels are at.

 

[CdnGuy]

GL on the cycle OP...kill it!

 

[JKinetic]

Thanks for all the advice, questions gents.

5/8'' inch is awfully short, i'd very much suggest getting at least a 1 inch needle for future pinning, less chance of something going wrong. Good luck!

Good luck. I also like to pin quads and I still like to use a 25 gauge at 1.5 inches. 5/8 seems way to short imo. As far as diet goes figure out your goals find a base line and adjust when necessary. If I see gains coming slowly then I usually adjust what my intake is. There is a good nutrition section in the forums and plenty of people around here that will be happy to help.

I only use 5/8 for delts. But to be safe just get some 25g 1". U can use em for any spot. And am i wrong when i read that u got your "pre cycle" bloods after you did your first pin?

Thanks guys. I actually ordered some 1" 23 gauge needles as well, so I can always switch over.

Yes how are you supposed to get accurate results from that? Pre cycle bloods are tantamount to your continued health.

What kind of effects are likely to be pronounced after a single 250ml injection? I understand that getting the bloodwork done after the start of a cycle defeats the purpose to some degree, but I would assume that the effects 3 days into a cycle with a single injection should be minimal?

Regardless, what is done cannot be undone. I'll be getting the labs done tomorrow, which I would imagine is better than not getting them at all (but feel free to tell me otherwise).

 

[Cramps88]

It not necessarily the effects after one pin but to make sure where your test, e levels and whether or not you have any other issues with your blood results that need to be addressed. It's an over all heath conscious thing that is important. You have basically turned your body into a science experiment and should take advantage of all the tools necessary to succeed with your goals and stay healthy.

 

[Cramps88]

So just stay the course get bloods and remember every member is here to help you be safe and healthy. That is the whole purpose of meso and the reason that I don't fuck with any other boards. Im not all knowing but if I can help in any way hit me up.

 

[JKinetic]

@Cramps88 Yeah, I totally understand. I'm 27 and in great health, I probably take for granted the fact that I could still have something going wrong in my body in terms of hormonal levels that I wouldn't necessarily notice without seeing my baseline blood work.

I'm not too worried, but if I don't post again in a few days you guys can post in here to shit on my now dead self.

Genuinely appreciate the advice/help man.

 

[CAswole]

Right what's done is done. Point being pre- cycle bloods tend to be taken before your first shot lol. So just go back in about 6 weeks and in the future knuckle head... get your bloods before first shot. Lol good luck