PL tren pain ...

[cracka]

This is my frist time using PL ... I'm on his cyp. and tren (FYI:low mg tren). The cyp is fine no problems what so ever. The tren is a different story ... it's very painful and leaves a knot everytime I inject. My leg workouts are starting to suffer do to the pain/tightness from the knots. I cut it with some oil and still had no luck ... I think I'm pretty much SOL. Any ideas ...? Does this sound familiar to anyone?

Also ... i have to shake up the tren everytime before I use it ... some of the tren solution appears to dissociate when it settles. Is this typical for his tren? Thanks guys ...

-cracka

 

[Aaron]

Yep, his tren is very painful for me, I gave it to my boy and he felt the same thing. Feels like glass inside your muscle. However I have heard of people just reacting bad to his gear and some have no problem whatsoever. Could be different from person to person but I know exactly what you are going through.

 

[cracka]

Yep, his tren is very painful for me, I gave it to my boy and he felt the same thing. Feels like glass inside your muscle. However I have heard of people just reacting bad to his gear and some have no problem whatsoever. Could be different from person to person but I know exactly what you are going through.

Yeah it sucks ... I still have 4-5 weeks left. If I start getting mad-strong then it will be worth it. So far the cyp. has done nada ... 3/20 will be a full 5 weeks so it still may be early. I normally feel test after 3 or so weeks.

Someone on another board suggested I put it in the oven for 20 minutes @220 to get it back into solution and to "bake" off some of the excess BA that might be in there (even though PL uses a low BA%). Not sure if I should I don't want to f'up the gear ... painful gear is better than no gear I guess. Anyone???

 

[occam]

What kind of oil did you use to cut it and how much?

It wont become painless, but if your able to handle a higher volume poke, adding sterile oil should alleviate most of the discomfort.

GetPinz offers 50ml of filtered soy oil for 10 bucks, that works for most folks.

Good luck to you.

 

[Aaron]

As far as getting it back into solution you can boil the vial in water, make sure to vent it with a pin. The tren should be kicking in withing a week, I know his gear is excellent but just to painful for me.

 

[vaivai]

I know there props painful.

 

[cracka]

What kind of oil did you use to cut it and how much?

GetPinz offers 50ml of filtered soy oil for 10 bucks, that works for most folks.

Good luck to you.

Yeah ... my oil is from GP.com. I'll try it again ... if it doesn't do the job oh well. Once it starts kickin in full effect I'm sure it will be worth it.

The weird thing is ... since I've started the tren ... I've lost 5 lbs (it will be 2 full weeks this saturday). Since I'm trying to lean up ... it doesn't bother me, but I'm not wanting to lose weight this fast. My muscles seem to be shrinking but hardening up (of course it may be fat loss ... too early to tell). I think the next ten days will be interesting ... especially since I'm on spring break.

My body is probably getting a good "shock" since I put some cardio in my workouts. Right now it's 3 times a week for 30 minutes ... at a moderate intensity. I'm being careful not to over train etc etc.

I hope to lose some fat and gain strength... I've never used tren so I'm hoping for a good experience. Any advice, thoughts, or encouragement is welcomed. Kudos for the replys.

 

[micro]

I have never heard the Tren being painful , maybe it's just that batch. I have some friends that are on it and no pain at all. But then again they're mixing it with there Sustanon.

 

[occam]

Describe your pain for me.

I am shooting his prop/tren ED, as I mentioned I cut mine with oil.

The shots are fine, but three hours later the fun begins.
Pain lasts about three days......which is funny considering the half life of the sauce.

BTW-Past two days have been in the quads. They are straight up shot....I worked them over in the gym earlier, which didn't help all that much at the time.

Now I'm feeling like a cripple.

If it's that aching soreness that you get hours after the shot.....well I'd have to say accept it........embrace it........take it on head strong.

Good luck man.

 

[micro]

Describe your pain for me.

I am shooting his prop/tren ED, as I mentioned I cut mine with oil.

The shots are fine, but three hours later the fun begins.
Pain lasts about three days......which is funny considering the half life of the sauce.

BTW-Past two days have been in the quads. They are straight up shot....I worked them over in the gym earlier, which didn't help all that much at the time.

Now I'm feeling like a cripple.

If it's that aching soreness that you get hours after the shot.....well I'd have to say accept it........embrace it........take it on head strong.

Good luck man.

I used his Tren/Prop also and it was very painful had to cut it with oil to. But the pain was from the Prop not the Tren.

 

[cracka]

Describe your pain for me.
If it's that aching soreness that you get hours after the shot.....well I'd have to say accept it........embrace it........take it on head strong.

Good luck man.

I can feel pain when I'm injecting ... like a sting and I feel my muscle twitching/tightening up as I injectly--slowly. I've never had this happen before... (the stinging yes ... but the other stuff no). The funny thing is I've never heard of tren being painful.

The pain doesn't come around until the next day ... then I'm crippled with pain and tightness. The only thing I can do not to cause pain is use the bike at the gym. Even that isn't the most pleasant. As far as squeezing the muscle (leg extensions) and squatting forget it... It's too painful. The knots hurt ... and have been staying their well after the pain goes away.

So far I'm at:
5 1/2 weeks of cyp. at 750mg and 2 1/2 weeks of tren at 100mg EOD. So far I'm not impressed ... I was really optomistic at first now I'm not sure if I'll use PL again. Unforunately I don't have money to fling around since I'm in school. Live and learn I guess ...

 

[occam]

I can feel pain when I'm injecting ... like a sting and I feel my muscle twitching/tightening up as I injectly--slowly. I've never had this happen before... (the stinging yes ... but the other stuff no). The funny thing is I've never heard of tren being painful.

The pain doesn't come around until the next day ... then I'm crippled with pain and tightness. The only thing I can do not to cause pain is use the bike at the gym. Even that isn't the most pleasant. As far as squeezing the muscle (leg extensions) and squatting forget it... It's too painful. The knots hurt ... and have been staying their well after the pain goes away.

So far I'm at:
5 1/2 weeks of cyp. at 750mg and 2 1/2 weeks of tren at 100mg EOD. So far I'm not impressed ... I was really optomistic at first now I'm not sure if I'll use PL again. Unforunately I don't have money to fling around since I'm in school. Live and learn I guess ...

I know it's hard for some to control the muscle spasm/twitch as you aspirate and inject....but that might be the key for you. If you are inadvertatly flexing while the pin is in you are going to be more than a bit sore.

As for the results....I'd consider going ED with the tren, I know that's not what you want to hear right about now huh?

 

[micro]

I can feel pain when I'm injecting ... like a sting and I feel my muscle twitching/tightening up as I injectly--slowly. I've never had this happen before... (the stinging yes ... but the other stuff no). The funny thing is I've never heard of tren being painful.

The pain doesn't come around until the next day ... then I'm crippled with pain and tightness. The only thing I can do not to cause pain is use the bike at the gym. Even that isn't the most pleasant. As far as squeezing the muscle (leg extensions) and squatting forget it... It's too painful. The knots hurt ... and have been staying their well after the pain goes away.

So far I'm at:
5 1/2 weeks of cyp. at 750mg and 2 1/2 weeks of tren at 100mg EOD. So far I'm not impressed ... I was really optomistic at first now I'm not sure if I'll use PL again. Unforunately I don't have money to fling around since I'm in school. Live and learn I guess ...

From the sounds of it , it doesnt look like it's the gear that giving you pain. Sounds like the way your injecting.

 

[occam]

I did .5 ml in each delt about three hours ago.......no oil this time.
My thinking is that less volume in each shot will help, despite some extra discomfort from the straight sauce.

I'm a bit achey (is that a word?) but not more so than with the sterile oil or my eq.

I can feel the stiffness coming on as I type this.

I'll let you know tommorow if it was a mistake to not cut it.

 

[cracka]

From the sounds of it , it doesnt look like it's the gear that giving you pain. Sounds like the way your injecting.

Ummm no ... I know what I'm doing ... I said the cyp was painless and that the tren was killing me. How can it not be the gear????

As for the muscle spasm ... it's not really a spasm ... I can just feel my muscle getting tight and sore as I inject the tren. Everything is involuntary when I'm injecting and I have no control over it. I appologize for not being clear on that ... I know I referred to it as twitching but I guess I should explain a little better. It's more like I can feel the gear entering and my muscles, tendons, nerves, tightening up and becoming sensitive. OTher than that I don't know how to explain it.

Yeah bro ... you're right ... that's exactly what I didn't want to hear LOL. If the pain wasn't so bad ... ED wouldn't be so bad. Yeah .. let me know if that works ... I was entertaining that thought today at the gym as a matter of fact.

 

[occam]

OH MY GOD.

Just got back from dinner.......I am crippled.

I really don't know how I'm going to keep this up for another six weeks.
I agree with the gentleman who earlier stated that it was in all likelyhood the Prop that hurt.........but what the fuck man.........how do people keep doing ED pokes and keep training intense etc?

Cracka- Sounds like you might have a compatibility issue with tren, or at least that batch of it.

I'll let you know how I feel in the a.m.

 

[cracka]

Cracka- Sounds like you might have a compatibility issue with tren, or at least that batch of it.

I'll let you know how I feel in the a.m.

Yeah ... it's either me or it's the tren. From now on I think I'm gonna stick with my boys over at Black Label. Their prices could be better ... but their products are unreal. BL makes an excellent prop/phenylprop (200mg/ml) combo that is painless.

Take some asprin for the pain ... it helps me. Take care of the shoulder(s) bro ... and keep us posted.