Planning 2nd cycle.

[IrishHammer]

Starting to plan my 2nd cycle (1st cycle was only 9/10 weeks long had to cut short and was only 300 test c /w). Open to suggestions here and still have alot to learn was thinking of running 500mg test (Is cyp the best choice?) And adding in primo, what is a good dosage for primo? I've read quite a bit around it and see alot of difference in opinion around dosages, seems low doses primo is a waste of time? And what's the best AI to have at hand and then for PCT. Should I stick to a 12 week cycle or can I run for 16 wks.

Thanks in advance.

 

[N1c0]

Yeah cyp and or enanthate are the best tests for bulk. So you want add primo. If you bulk I would first take deca with in this cycle. Primo in the next one. And yeah you can run 16 weeks because it takes a long time until it kicks in. And something else. Why pct??? I am absolutely not a fan of pct. You will lose much gains (maybe 60-80-90%) if you go of. If you want to go off forever... then you can do a pct in my opinion. Additionally it's very expensive. I would hardly recommend to you to do blast in cruise. That means the 16 weeks which is your cycle is your blast and then you go on about 250-max 400mg test per week. I think in your case 250 or 300mg are enough. And after the 8 weeks your body recovered an you can go on to the next blast. I hope I could help you and good luck for your next cycle!

 

[ripper908]

what did you run on your first cycle?

500mg of test is a solid base. can make alot of gains on that alone

as for a second compound its pretty much upto you. add in one compound at a time and see how your body responds is all you can really do.

 

[IrishHammer]

I ran 300mg of test the first time, I tried adding mast in aswell a few weeks in but was immediately getting chest pains from it, bad gear maybe I don't know.

Yeah I might just stick to the test see how I get on, thanks.

 

[N1c0]

No problem. Maybe your body works different you have to figure it out for you that what I said is in general.

 

[Big_paul]

ran 300mg of test the first time, I tried adding mast in aswell a few weeks in but was immediately getting chest pains from it, bad gear maybe I don't know.

I seriously doubt the chest pains were from mast. If you experience angina get your ass to a doctor.

500mg test would be a good 2nd cycle. It would be a better 1st cycle. Keep it simple.

 

[IrishHammer]

Went to the doctor and everything was fine, over the space of a week or so with 3 injections of mast chest pain followed as soon I stopped the pain did also! Tried again like a week later to see and pains came start back so it's a strange one

 

[Jonb3750]

I'm also about to start my 2nd cycle ever and the last one was in 2016. I have been out of the game for a while. I'm 40 and been back in the gym for 6 weeks. My first cycle was 500 mfs of test e weekly and I got the start of gyno. My buddy recommended me take amistrazole drops and the gyno went away immediately. I just can't remember the dosage, a half mg every other day? Does that sound right? Anyway was wondering if just having Nolva on hand at 10 mgs a day during cycle,if,only if, I get gyno symptoms again will be cool? Gonna use it for my pct at 20mg for two weeks. Also do I need hcg 500iu a day for those two weeks also?...just wondering...wanna prepare for gyno just in case...taking 500 mg test e again btw this time that's it..

 

[pistonpump]

I'm also about to start my 2nd cycle ever and the last one was in 2016. I have been out of the game for a while. I'm 40 and been back in the gym for 6 weeks. My first cycle was 500 mfs of test e weekly and I got the start of gyno. My buddy recommended me take amistrazole drops and the gyno went away immediately. I just can't remember the dosage, a half mg every other day? Does that sound right? Anyway was wondering if just having Nolva on hand at 10 mgs a day during cycle,if,only if, I get gyno symptoms again will be cool? Gonna use it for my pct at 20mg for two weeks. Also do I need hcg 500iu a day for those two weeks also?...just wondering...wanna prepare for gyno just in case...taking 500 mg test e again btw this time that's it..

U just got back in the gym only 6 weeks and you want to do a cycle? Go to the gym regularly for a year then do a cycle. 6 weeks? This is what's wrong with this whole open steroid thing cuz everyone can get them now and even kids just want to jump of cycle cuz it's all over social media.

 

[IrishHammer]

I would agree, although I'm new to AAS I've been training consistently for years at this stage with the odd break for a couple weeks.

 

[OmL]

I would agree, although I'm new to AAS I've been training consistently for years at this stage with the odd break for a couple weeks.

My first cycle was 500mg test a week. With my second cycle being 600mg a week. Slow and steady man.

Are you in Ireland?

 

[IrishHammer]

Yeah cork what about you?

 

[OmL]

Yeah cork what about you?

Welcome aboard. I’m in Kildare.

What’s the plans for the cycle? We don’t have much of a body building scene here. You lookin to flatten some poor fucker on the pitch?

 

[IrishHammer]

Thanks man,

Hahaha ya possibly I'm just interested in building mass and a good physique, not interested in competing!! I was planning on 500mg test/wk and using primo to keep my E2 in range, I aromatise easily so that's my plan for the moment.

Do you know anywhere where I can get my bloods done other than the GP, he wasn't happy at all seeing my bloods the last time and it's just hassle from him so I'd rather not involve my gp in it.

 

[OmL]

Thanks man,

Hahaha ya possibly I'm just interested in building mass and a good physique, not interested in competing!! I was planning on 500mg test/wk and using primo to keep my E2 in range, I aromatise easily so that's my plan for the moment.

Do you know anywhere where I can get my bloods done other than the GP, he wasn't happy at all seeing my bloods the last time and it's just hassle from him so I'd rather not involve my gp in it.

Options here are very limited. I’ve tried a few private companies and they don’t seem all to bothered to accept uncapped testosterone counts, most places uses the labs as your GP and total testosterone is capped at 1500ng/dl anyway. Some private labs never even replied to me. Had no option but to ask my Gp to refer me to an endocrinologist, so I check in there twice a year.

Other than that, you know how behind we are when it comes all aspects of men’s health.

 

[BigTomJ]

Forget about adding other compounds.

All you've done up to the point is a small test dose for far too short.

Next cycle test only 16 weeks.


That being said, you asked a LOT of really basic questions that would have been answered with even minimal research. So to me it sounds like you should pump the breaks and learn before shoving that in you

 

[BigTomJ]

I'm also about to start my 2nd cycle ever and the last one was in 2016. I have been out of the game for a while. I'm 40 and been back in the gym for 6 weeks. My first cycle was 500 mfs of test e weekly and I got the start of gyno. My buddy recommended me take amistrazole drops and the gyno went away immediately. I just can't remember the dosage, a half mg every other day? Does that sound right? Anyway was wondering if just having Nolva on hand at 10 mgs a day during cycle,if,only if, I get gyno symptoms again will be cool? Gonna use it for my pct at 20mg for two weeks. Also do I need hcg 500iu a day for those two weeks also?...just wondering...wanna prepare for gyno just in case...taking 500 mg test e again btw this time that's it..

Congrats on being back in the gym.

Iron out your training and diet and continue to get back into things before considering adding gear. No need to rush

 

[laclark89]

Take ur test only cycles as high as you can without needing a ai and then expiremernt with fast acting compounds along with ur test c or e , so u can bail if you dont like it. Some asshole said above take decca ur second cycle and pct u can keep gains. Lmao that's some of the stupid shit I usto think before I had any idea wtf I was doing. You know how hard it is to recover from decca?

 

[IrishHammer]

Point noted, better use to primo than an ai no?

And yes, I've only heard bad things about decca doesn't appeal to me

 

[laclark89]

Forget about adding other compounds.

All you've done up to the point is a small test dose for far too short.

Next cycle test only 16 weeks.


That being said, you asked a LOT of really basic questions that would have been answered with even minimal research. So to me it sounds like you should pump the breaks and learn before shoving that in you

I researched gear for like a year 2 before I had the balls to pinn and I still dont know shit. At least compared to alot of guys on here.