please help

[saleentrax707]

Whats up fellas ,ok heres my deal im going to be 29 in 2 weeks im 5-11 about 225 20% body fat. ive been working 6 days a week now for months and my bys are not growing now there 17 inches i want 20s .right now im taking creatine and amino acids.im going to cycle off those next friday.I have had a bottle of test sitting around for awhlie waiting to use.So how much should i do and for how long.I want to get bigger as well as leaner is this the right juice for me?And what are the probable side affects.Any help would help alot i have a partner that i lift with that is against roids so i have nobody to talk to about this subject




Thankz alot Dan

 

[AirBorne]

Whats up fellas ,ok heres my deal im going to be 29 in 2 weeks im 5-11 about 225 20% body fat. ive been working 6 days a week now for months and my bys are not growing now there 17 inches i want 20s .right now im taking creatine and amino acids.im going to cycle off those next friday.I have had a bottle of test sitting around for awhlie waiting to use.So how much should i do and for how long.I want to get bigger as well as leaner is this the right juice for me?And what are the probable side affects.Any help would help alot i have a partner that i lift with that is against roids so i have nobody to talk to about this subject




Thankz alot Dan

Wuts up Dan...good to have you! My first post sounded alot like yours. Everyone told me what they are gonna tell you....just hang around the forum, and read read read read read!!! I know how you feel and how many questions you have, but take a few weeks to read through the threads. There is an overwhelming amount of knowledge within this forum...I promise that all of your questions will be answered by reading through everyone's posts. By reading, you will see who the knowledgeable people are. Take heed to what they say...they know their shit! Use the search option to look for specific things.

Now, about your test...u might want to look in the Steroid Pictures section to see if you have real stuff....or let us know what kind it is, where you got it, etc etc. Types, dosages, training, diet, PCT, gyno, anti-e's, etc etc etc etc...these are all things you gotta take time to learn about. They are all very important. You definately dont want to just jump into anything without doin yer homework. GOod luck bro, and just read and ask questions. Peace

 

[brasco]

Why??

Whats up fellas ,ok heres my deal im going to be 29 in 2 weeks im 5-11 about 225 20% body fat. ive been working 6 days a week now for months and my bys are not growing now there 17 inches i want 20s .right now im taking creatine and amino acids.im going to cycle off those next friday.I have had a bottle of test sitting around for awhlie waiting to use.So how much should i do and for how long.I want to get bigger as well as leaner is this the right juice for me?And what are the probable side affects.Any help would help alot i have a partner that i lift with that is against roids so i have nobody to talk to about this subject




Thankz alot Dan

Why more weight if you are 225 and 20% BF, If I am you I would try to get lean and then go from there, just my opinion. About that test. , I think you didn't read to much about AS, what test. do you have?? you have to mix more AS to get a good result. test + deca or EQ+ dianabol if you want and don't forgot about clomidor HCG, proscar, any way try to read more about AS to know in what stuff you get in.

just my opinion ( and sorry for spelling)
brasco

 

[bear747474]

Wuts up Dan...good to have you! My first post sounded alot like yours. Everyone told me what they are gonna tell you....just hang around the forum, and read read read read read!!! I know how you feel and how many questions you have, but take a few weeks to read through the threads. There is an overwhelming amount of knowledge within this forum...I promise that all of your questions will be answered by reading through everyone's posts. By reading, you will see who the knowledgeable people are. Take heed to what they say...they know their shit! Use the search option to look for specific things.

Now, about your test...u might want to look in the Steroid Pictures section to see if you have real stuff....or let us know what kind it is, where you got it, etc etc. Types, dosages, training, diet, PCT, gyno, anti-e's, etc etc etc etc...these are all things you gotta take time to learn about. They are all very important. You definately dont want to just jump into anything without doin yer homework. GOod luck bro, and just read and ask questions. Peace

I absolutly agree with this. Good advice bro. As far as the test it depends on what kind and how much you got, u can't go wrong with test. You will need about 20 ml. for a good cycle anyway. But, just read bro and ask your questions, be patient and you should have a good plan ready to go.

 

[saleentrax707]

clomidor HCG, proscar, any way try to read more about AS to know in what stuff you get in.





what are those things, i am fully new to all this .if i just use the test for my first cycle and nothing else will i get good results and do i need somthing to come off it with?i lift hard and eat right i should get gains correct?also i dont like uppers like speed or caffine it makes me nervous and wired .Is the test going to make me feel that way.Or do you even feel wired off it @ all ?

 

[ryan400]

Test isn't a stmulant so you shouldn't feel wired. Yes you can get good results from a test only cylcle and Yes you do need something (i.e. nolva and HCG) to use post cycle if you want to keep your gains.

 

[panabolic]

Saleen, curious to know why your bro is so against test?? Has he ever done it??

 

[AirBorne]

clomidor HCG, proscar, any way try to read more about AS to know in what stuff you get in.





what are those things, i am fully new to all this .if i just use the test for my first cycle and nothing else will i get good results and do i need somthing to come off it with?i lift hard and eat right i should get gains correct?also i dont like uppers like speed or caffine it makes me nervous and wired .Is the test going to make me feel that way.Or do you even feel wired off it @ all ?

Alright bro, Ill give you a quick run down since I have some time away from the GOD DAMN ENGINEERING LAB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Proscar- that is for hair loss. If you suffer from male pattern baldness, you need to consider that. I am using it now along with Nizoral Shampoo 2%.

If I were you, I would look into something like testosterone enanthate or cypionate. With those, you will only have to do shots 2 times per week. 500 mg would be a good dosage considering its your first.

PCT- post cycle therapy...VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!! Cannot stress this enough. HCG doesnt seem to be necessay, however, you need either Clomid or Nolvadex. There seems to be a split decision between the two, but I chose Nolvadex cuz I get acne easily and Clomid will only make that worse. Either one will work tho. The reason for these drugs are to help you keep the gains you make during the cycle. You usually run these for about a month after the cycle. You will find specifics when you research a lil more.

A test only cycle would be just fine. The most important things, though, are training, EATING, and rest. Again, you will find more specifics on that when you search through the forum more.

Right now, I am using Test Enanthate @500 mg/week for 12 weeks, Dbol @ 30 mg/day weeks 1-4, arimidex @ .25 mg every day (to keep water retention to a minimum), Proscar @ 1.25 mg every day, Milk Thistle (need a liver stimulant such as this to use when taking oral steroids).

You also need to keep Nolvadex on hand in case of Gyno symptoms(do a search on it and you will find out wut it is). And, for PCT, I have Nolva.

So, I hope that helps. I know alot of the veteran members on the board dont like to "spoon feed" the newbies, but I am still one myself and since I had some extra time on my hands today, I didnt mind throwin u this info. Now, go and read read read and learn as much as you can. You could have found all of this by lookin around, but i know how frustrating it is to even find a starting point. Peace bro

 

[AirBorne]

Alright bro, Ill give you a quick run down since I have some time away from the GOD DAMN ENGINEERING LAB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Proscar- that is for hair loss. If you suffer from male pattern baldness, you need to consider that. I am using it now along with Nizoral Shampoo 2%.

If I were you, I would look into something like testosterone enanthate or cypionate. With those, you will only have to do shots 2 times per week. 500 mg would be a good dosage considering its your first.

PCT- post cycle therapy...VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!! Cannot stress this enough. HCG doesnt seem to be necessay, however, you need either Clomid or Nolvadex. There seems to be a split decision between the two, but I chose Nolvadex cuz I get acne easily and Clomid will only make that worse. Either one will work tho. The reason for these drugs are to help you keep the gains you make during the cycle. You usually run these for about a month after the cycle. You will find specifics when you research a lil more.

A test only cycle would be just fine. The most important things, though, are training, EATING, and rest. Again, you will find more specifics on that when you search through the forum more.

Right now, I am using Test Enanthate @500 mg/week for 12 weeks, Dbol @ 30 mg/day weeks 1-4, arimidex @ .25 mg every day (to keep water retention to a minimum), Proscar @ 1.25 mg every day, Milk Thistle (need a liver stimulant such as this to use when taking oral steroids).

You also need to keep Nolvadex on hand in case of Gyno symptoms(do a search on it and you will find out wut it is). And, for PCT, I have Nolva.

So, I hope that helps. I know alot of the veteran members on the board dont like to "spoon feed" the newbies, but I am still one myself and since I had some extra time on my hands today, I didnt mind throwin u this info. Now, go and read read read and learn as much as you can. You could have found all of this by lookin around, but i know how frustrating it is to even find a starting point. Peace bro

My bad, a test only cycle wont be "just fine", it will kick serious ass if you do everything else right!

 

[saleentrax707]

thankz alot bro you have answered most everything im wanting to know.so i keep nolvadex around incase i start growing girls boobs than after my cycle i need to take it anyways to keep my gains.whats a good dose of that?and is it hard to come buy? and again thankz sooo much for the help! i was getting nervous going in blind!

 

[saleentrax707]

panabolic my friend thinks all gear is bad not just test.

 

[saleentrax707]

airborn ,so your saying that i need to keep nolvadex around incase i start growing girls boobs than after my cycle i need to take it anyways to keep my gains. how much and for how long?

thankz again Dan

 

[AirBorne]

airborn ,so your saying that i need to keep nolvadex around incase i start growing girls boobs than after my cycle i need to take it anyways to keep my gains. how much and for how long?

thankz again Dan

I dont think yer gonna start growin girl boobs....girls boobs are the fun ones! Man-boobies...bitch-tits....those are the not so fun ones that you need to keep nolva on hand for. Read up on "gyno"...you need to learn wut the symptoms are. as for dosages, 20 mg per day if gyno symptoms appear.....take it until they go away, or up the dosage if they get worse. read over the PM again...i explained alot