Possible dirty raws

[kap73]

i read somewhere on here once i think about washing the impurities out of raws.. Does anybody have exprience with this?

My raws dont seem to want to filter.. Im using MCT oil like always and .22 filter.. Normally its filters in an hour but this time no good.. I used a different source so i have to think the raws are cut more (LMC for the record)

 

[ebkallday]

No good as in it will not even run through the filter?

 

[kap73]

No good as in it will not even run through the filter?

Not really no, like tried to make 500ml.. Got 40ml with .22 filter thought fuck it and bout .45 filter got 120ml then that 120ml flew thru a .22 filtler

Bought another .45 and put it on overnight and woke up to 50ml...

I still have a nice bit of powder left so thinking it needs a rinse or some shit

 

[ebkallday]

Yep, it's got some goofy shit in it. I have heard of guys washing raws before but have no idea how to go about it.

 

[kap73]

Yeh im pissed off i went with a different than normal source for a sale and i gues you could say i paid the price.. Life goes on

I have read it here but cpuldnt find it... Hopefully some one chimes in

 

[T_verde77]

SYNOVEX SEPERATION YEILDING TEST PROP, recrystallization of a supersaturated solution

I've never done it but maybe some day

 

[kap73]

Cheers mate i will have a flick thru it

 

[T_verde77]

Cheers mate i will have a flick thru it

Let me know if u figure it out. My brain started hurting halfway though lol. It's late here

 

[kap73]

Let me know if u figure it out. My brain started hurting halfway though lol. It's late here

My head hurts to lol

I dare say that article is more about coverting test p from pellets, very similar to tren conversion if im not mistaken.

Im more interested in cleaning test E raws, which i 'think' is a differnt process afain.. I may be conpletly mistaken tho lol

 

[T_verde77]

My head hurts to lol

I dare say that article is more about coverting test p from pellets, very similar to tren conversion if im not mistaken.

Im more interested in cleaning test E raws, which i 'think' is a differnt process afain.. I may be conpletly mistaken tho lol

Ya I think it's sort of the same process. I just figured that would get u going in the right direction with researching re-crystallization. I'll try and find more info on it to

 

[hotdog23]

I doubt he wants to explain but @flenser has had some success. Idk if he is even still around. This has been covered in detail in 2015 threads around April-June either in underground or here

 

[flenser]

If the impurities are water soluble, like some food additives, you can wash it in water and filter it through a simple coffee filter. I haven't had any raws that this helped. I always got the exact same amount of raws back after I dried everything. I suppose if it were mixed with sugar, washing would be useful.

With respect to recrystallization , it has very limited utility. This is because the impurities bind to the aas molecules during crystallization. You can unbind the impurities in the solution when you dissolve the raws, but they will bind again to the aas when it precipitates out of the solution. Some amount of the aas is also left in the solution, never recrystallizes, so you can't even determine how much if any impurities were removed.

There were some more complex attempts made by myself and a few others, but I don't want to post them here. None were all that successful, and all of them have a high risk of either harmful contamination or fire.

 

[rutman]

I've recently seen some test Cyp powder that didn't want to flow well thru a .45 whatman unless it was very warm. It's still thick after filtering, but pip free. Made in Mct oil as well... I'd say it's around 80% pure according to bloodwork

 

[kap73]

If the impurities are water soluble, like some food additives, you can wash it in water and filter it through a simple coffee filter. I haven't had any raws that this helped. I always got the exact same amount of raws back after I dried everything. I suppose if it were mixed with sugar, washing would be useful.

With respect to recrystallization , it has very limited utility. This is because the impurities bind to the aas molecules during crystallization. You can unbind the impurities in the solution when you dissolve the raws, but they will bind again to the aas when it precipitates out of the solution. Some amount of the aas is also left in the solution, never recrystallizes, so you can't even determine how much if any impurities were removed.

There were some more complex attempts made by myself and a few others, but I don't want to post them here. None were all that successful, and all of them have a high risk of either harmful contamination or fire.

Thanks for your reply mate, i honestly think im just goin to throw these raws out.. Makes me sad lol

I've recently seen some test Cyp powder that didn't want to flow well thru a .45 whatman unless it was very warm. It's still thick after filtering, but pip free. Made in Mct oil as well... I'd say it's around 80% pure according to bloodwork

These raws really struggle to filter, i have got a bit out and put it in a vial, yet to pin it tho...

So yesterday after making this thread i got impatient i guess and got my raws from another supplier.. Brewed 250ml ans it filtered thru a .45 in 35min then thru and .22 filter in 20min..... Just goes to show how dirty the others were

 

[hotdog23]

I've recently seen some test Cyp powder that didn't want to flow well thru a .45 whatman unless it was very warm. It's still thick after filtering, but pip free. Made in Mct oil as well... I'd say it's around 80% pure according to bloodwork

Have you had any trouble with high concentration long esters in mct? Something like test e or deca more specifically? And trouble as in not holding or solution becoming funny looking after filtration? Thanks in advance

 

[Superjet68]

Shit, I have an order of Test E coming in from the same place. I will let you know if I run into the same problem. Did you use BB in your formula or just BA?

 

[rutman]

Have you had any trouble with high concentration long esters in mct? Something like test e or deca more specifically? And trouble as in not holding or solution becoming funny looking after filtration? Thanks in advance

Not until this last batch. But I overdosed the shit out of it. Probably by 40% just to see how strong I could make it. I figured it to be brewed around 300mg Cyp, with the standard 2/20 ba and bb ratio. Needless to say it froze solid after a few days, lol. I reheated it but it crashed again. Had some major knots with it too, imagine that lol. So I had to dilute it down to 250mg and its holding and pinning smooth.

 

[kap73]

Shit, I have an order of Test E coming in from the same place. I will let you know if I run into the same problem. Did you use BB in your formula or just BA?

I use the the same ratio as above 20/2 bb/ba

Not until this last batch. But I overdosed the shit out of it. Probably by 40% just to see how strong I could make it. I figured it to be brewed around 300mg Cyp, with the standard 2/20 ba and bb ratio. Needless to say it froze solid after a few days, lol. I reheated it but it crashed again. Had some major knots with it too, imagine that lol. So I had to dilute it down to 250mg and its holding and pinning smooth.

Question for u bro

I left my batch that wpuldnt filter in the bottle filter with no pressure for 48hours and now its filtered right thru 250ml

Ok so im thinkn the filter has degraded.. Whats your thoughts? The filter is a .45 naglene nylon...

I was under the impression nylon filters wouldnt degrade with these chemicals. If it was PES i would be inclined to think the filter failed

 

[Dr__Jan_Itor]

I use the the same ratio as above 20/2 bb/ba



Question for u bro

I left my batch that wpuldnt filter in the bottle filter with no pressure for 48hours and now its filtered right thru 250ml

Ok so im thinkn the filter has degraded.. Whats your thoughts? The filter is a .45 naglene nylon...

I was under the impression nylon filters wouldnt degrade with these chemicals. If it was PES i would be inclined to think the filter failed

Are you going to use it and post some bloodwork on it?

 

[rutman]

I use the the same ratio as above 20/2 bb/ba



Question for u bro

I left my batch that wpuldnt filter in the bottle filter with no pressure for 48hours and now its filtered right thru 250ml

Ok so im thinkn the filter has degraded.. Whats your thoughts? The filter is a .45 naglene nylon...

I was under the impression nylon filters wouldnt degrade with these chemicals. If it was PES i would be inclined to think the filter failed

Wish I knew, but I don't have any experience with these type of filters.

@Docd187123.... What's your thoughts on this?