Primo E Brew Crashed

[Blitz33]

Hi Guys,
I had brewed some primo e, when warmed up its look nice and crystal clear, when cool down looks like snow flakes in it. I warmed 2 times still same, what should I do, adding more BB can solve this?

100gr primo e (methenole enanthate)
770ml mct oil (I know its more)
180ml bb
Didn't put BA yet, usually I m adding BA just before filtering.


https://prnt.sc/23vmz1w

 

[Blitz33]

Also I noticed my BB looks cloudy today, maybe bb spoiled or something?
when brewing primo it doesnt looks like this, look normal.

 

[theotherguy]

Can you dumb it down for me? What concentration did you brew the gear and what percent BB was used? I have bought a few batches of BB and never seen it cloudy before

My only Primo E brew ever I did at 150 mg/mL (plus 10% OD, so ~165 mg/ml) at 2/20 and it is still holding just fine, 3 months later

 

[Blitz33]

%18 bb
%2 ba

100mg per ml

ordered new BB I will add bb again but I dont think its gonna work, I will uptade here

 

[theotherguy]

Shit, maybe it is bad BB, I can't see how it would crash at 100 mg/ml and 18/2. Don't take my word for it though.

@Jet Labs @Liska any insight?

 

[theotherguy]

Stupid question, but at what temperature are you storing this stuff?

 

[Blitz33]

Stupid question, but at what temperature are you storing this stuff?

Room temp, its melt over 40-50C

 

[theotherguy]

Room temp, its melt over 40-50C

room temp as in 20-22C? You aren't storing it in a cold room? I'm just making sure you're not storing it in an overly cold place. Like I said, it's probably a stupid question, but I feel compelled to ask

 

[Blitz33]

room temp as in 20-22C? You aren't storing it in a cold room? I'm just making sure you're not storing it in an overly cold place. Like I said, it's probably a stupid question, but I feel compelled to ask

Actually 2-8C nights

 

[theotherguy]

Actually 2-8C nights

I'd try to find a warmer place to store it and see if it still crashes. When someone says to store at room temp, that means 68-72F or 20-22C. At 2C you may as well be storing it in a refrigerator

 

[pharmasource]

18% of BB is sure enough for 100mg Primo ( more like 100mg )
So, your BB may be is not BB.
Cloudy BB = low temp probably, nearly to crash ( or, some bad quality or contamined BB with some impurities ) . BB started to be cloudy, and with very low temp its like a wax. Get it to a freezer and you will se see what hapened with BB.

 

[theotherguy]

18% of BB is sure enough for 100mg Primo ( more like 100mg )
So, your BB may be is not BB.
Cloudy BB = low temp probably, nearly to crash ( or, some bad quality or contamined BB with some impurities ) . BB started to be cloudy, and with very low temp its like a wax. Get it to a freezer and you will se see what hapened with BB.

OP mentioned he was storing his gear in an area where it gets as cold at 2C, so I'd be willing to bet he is storing his BB nearby.

It really needs to be stored at room temp of 20-22C or 68-72F

 

[Blitz33]

I understand your point but this is not the problem, why should I store warmer place, its about 100 vials primo, can be colder or warmer anytime. Primo needs to be stable. I have bayer rimabolan in my hand and its not crashing, I m storing same place.

And its looks clear over 50C, not room temp

I know its enanthate ester but if this is acetat ester makes any difference?
Maybe my source send wrong product.

OP mentioned he was storing his gear in an area where it gets as cold at 2C, so I'd be willing to bet he is storing his BB nearby.

It really needs to be stored at room temp of 20-22C or 68-72F

 

[theotherguy]

I understand your point but this is not the problem, why should I store warmer place, its about 100 vials primo, can be colder or warmer anytime. Primo needs to be stable. I have bayer rimabolan in my hand and its not crashing, I m storing same place.

And its looks clear over 50C, not room temp

I know its enanthate ester but if this is acetat ester makes any difference?
Maybe my source send wrong product.

They may have a different brewing process that allows for holding at low temps, if that’s a possibility. I don’t really know how that works. Could be higher quality solvents, or super solvents in it. I’m not really sure what the difference is

 

[Jet Labs]

I understand your point but this is not the problem, why should I store warmer place, its about 100 vials primo, can be colder or warmer anytime. Primo needs to be stable. I have bayer rimabolan in my hand and its not crashing, I m storing same place.

And its looks clear over 50C, not room temp

I know its enanthate ester but if this is acetat ester makes any difference?
Maybe my source send wrong product.

Primo-ace holds perfectly fine at 1/20 so whatever ester primo it is it should be holding!

Any chance you swapped your bb for ba?

 

[Blitz33]

Primo-ace holds perfectly fine at 1/20 so whatever ester primo it is it should be holding!

Any chance you swapped your bb for ba?

I didnt add BA yet

 

[Blitz33]

Hi again, tried something that recommended here (Thx again)

added 20ml BB and give it a couple hours low heat stir, not melted completely but definetly making progress. you can check the images.

So now my question is, if I increase bb to %25-30 might be problem?

Also in first place, I might mix bb and ba by mistake

For those who like brew porn added some photos.