Primo in Castor oil questions

[Gemini Bandit]

Hey Guys

Recently brewed my first batch of Primo in MCT at 100mg/ml with 2/20 BA BB no issues at all pinned smooth, im a sucker for Primo PIP real 200mg/ml kicks me like a F**N mule.

My wife raves about Castor oil and uses it for everything and and I see a lot of people here love it as a carrier oil.

Question is when using Castor for say 100mg/ml is less BB required or is it desirable to run the same or even more BB thin it down?

Same question again for 150/mg/ml Primo in Castor?

Anyone willing to share some advice/recipes for 100 and 150mg/ml Primo in Castor?

 

[Sampei]

Hey Guys

Recently brewed my first batch of Primo in MCT at 100mg/ml with 2/20 BA BB no issues at all pinned smooth, im a sucker for Primo PIP real 200mg/ml kicks me like a F**N mule.

My wife raves about Castor oil and uses it for everything and and I see a lot of people here love it as a carrier oil.

Question is when using Castor for say 100mg/ml is less BB required or is it desirable to run the same or even more BB thin it down?

Same question again for 150/mg/ml Primo in Castor?

Anyone willing to share some advice/recipes for 100 and 150mg/ml Primo in Castor?

35-40% BB at least to thin down that motherfucker

 

[Gemini Bandit]

35-40% BB at least to thin down that motherfucker

Copy That, more BB, Thin that shit down. would love to still be able get it through a 27G on a 1ml barrel.

 

[Gemini Bandit]

So after lots of reading (basically Nartas entire castor experiments thread and more)

I gave this a go

Primo 2/30 BA BB with Castor @150mg/ml (didn't quite go as aggressive as on the BB as Sampei suggested)

obviously it held no issues but usually anything over 100mg/ml primo will give me some pip every now and then, 200mg every time. But this 150mg/ml in Castor has me converted, I am a month in, im now 1ml EOD and STILL yet to have any pain. It is a little slower to pin but I still get it through a 27G pin no issues.

Castor has literally changed the game for someone who is PIP prone like me, I used to just man up and handle it as primo is probably my favourite compounds.

I only made a small batch and I am almost out so batch two is in the works. I feel like I shouldn't have any issues getting 180mg to hold in 2/30 and Castor should I?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Primo 2/30 BA BB

BB is not just a solvent but a thinning agent.

40-50% with Castor.


I think Pharma Primo is 35%

I only made a small batch and I am almost out so batch two is in the works. I feel like I shouldn't have any issues getting 180mg to hold in 2/30 and Castor should I?

I think 200mg/ml holds at 20%. So after that objective is BB as a thinning agent, which you should use it for with castor.

 

[Gemini Bandit]

BB is not just a solvent but a thinning agent.

40-50% with Castor.


I think Pharma Primo is 35%



I think 200mg/ml holds at 20%. So after that objective is BB as a thinning agent, which you should use it for with castor.

Thanks for the solid info. Well I am pretty happy with the viscosity I have at 30% and given the fact I am not having any other issues and technically don't need more BB to achieve my objectives I might just leave it as is and slowly up the primo concentration. I would rather inject more Castor oil than more BB.

 

[Sampei]

Thanks for the solid info. Well I am pretty happy with the viscosity I have at 30% and given the fact I am not having any other issues and technically don't need more BB to achieve my objectives I might just leave it as is and slowly up the primo concentration. I would rather inject more Castor oil than more BB.

If you up the concentration the viscosity increases and it gets harder to inject think about it and plan accordingly

180mg makes no sense, go 200mg.

 

[Gemini Bandit]

If you up the concentration the viscosity increases and it gets harder to inject think about it and plan accordingly

180mg makes no sense, go 200mg.

You are 100% right 180mg makes no sense, I have been thinking about it and its just me being wimp/overly conservative.

I was going to ask that question regarding concentration and viscosity actually and it makes total sense. I might have to play with it to get it where I want it.

I don't mind a slow pin I just don't want to have to use a 25g

 

[Gemini Bandit]

So I went
2% BA
35% BB
and went the full 200mg/ml
Castor as the carrier obviously.

slow and steady through 27G,felt very similar to the 150mg/ml with 30%BB and Castor in terms of viscosity. 48hours later..... perfect, I cant even feel where I pinned.

 

[Jaxino]

So I went
2% BA
35% BB
and went the full 200mg/ml
Castor as the carrier obviously.

slow and steady through 27G,felt very similar to the 150mg/ml with 30%BB and Castor in terms of viscosity. 48hours later..... perfect, I cant even feel where I pinned.

I make my PrimoE 200mg/ml with 2% BA 20% BB in MCT oil, never had pip not even once.

Why you decided for Castor oil?

 

[Sampei]

So I went
2% BA
35% BB
and went the full 200mg/ml
Castor as the carrier obviously.

slow and steady through 27G,felt very similar to the 150mg/ml with 30%BB and Castor in terms of viscosity. 48hours later..... perfect, I cant even feel where I pinned.

Now the best next step Is trying 250 or 300mg.

With the new year I'll go for 300mg castor and we will see

 

[y777]

Now the best next step Is trying 250 or 300mg.

With the new year I'll go for 300mg castor and we will see

I’ve done 250 with 2/20 in castor. But I only did it because I was drawing out thinner oils into same syringe (eg finished MCT oils ) so I’d only pull in 0.10ml of the primo.

I’ve since gone to brewing my primo with the Bayer formula (plus BA) I don’t *need* higher primo concentration so keep primo at 100mg but crank my mast brews much higher (400-600mg)

Will do deca at higher also. For now I’m just going thru UGL oil

 

[Gemini Bandit]

Now the best next step Is trying 250 or 300mg.

With the new year I'll go for 300mg castor and we will see

Tell you what I am tempted to push it more, I will keep an eye out for it in your journey thread! With this 200/mg/ml going in this easy I will blast through this batch in no time.

Interesting side note, I have been using some Test A and NPP for the last week (not my brew but from a very trusted/respected supplier) now I am not saying its the product but more so the MCT possibly, I was getting a little more than my typical pip, pinning daily and 5-6 days when I come back around to the site to use it again still a but of tenderness.

Fuck it, Brewed up some Test P 100mg (little overdose) 2/35 and Castor and some NPP 2/35 100mg again in Castor.

I sit it on my hotplate @40c for 15mins before drawing, draw with a 23g and inject with a 30g (this is my normal MCT Procedure)
No issues getting it through the 30G, noticeably a little more effort to push but nothing extreme.

Best thing, 3days in on that, PIP is gone. I am almost at the "Fuck MCT" stage for my personal use.

 

[Sampei]

Tell you what I am tempted to push it more, I will keep an eye out for it in your journey thread! With this 200/mg/ml going in this easy I will blast through this batch in no time.

Interesting side note, I have been using some Test A and NPP for the last week (not my brew but from a very trusted/respected supplier) now I am not saying its the product but more so the MCT possibly, I was getting a little more than my typical pip, pinning daily and 5-6 days when I come back around to the site to use it again still a but of tenderness.

Fuck it, Brewed up some Test P 100mg (little overdose) 2/35 and Castor and some NPP 2/35 100mg again in Castor.

I sit it on my hotplate @40c for 15mins before drawing, draw with a 23g and inject with a 30g (this is my normal MCT Procedure)
No issues getting it through the 30G, noticeably a little more effort to push but nothing extreme.

Best thing, 3days in on that, PIP is gone. I am almost at the "Fuck MCT" stage for my personal use.

Castor oils is amazing if you are not pushing high volumes (not because you can't...it's just more of a pita to inject high volume xD but completely doable) casto has antiinflammatory properties that's why probably you ain't getting PIP.

However I have brewed NPP200 in MCT with no PIP so personally I use castor only for what I can't brew without PIP in MCT (due to high concentration) mostly as a last resort.

Even so I'm starting to think I'll brew many more stuff in castor for it's healthy properties especially things I usually inject with a 1ml syringe (very easy to inject even castor with those).

NPP in castor is excellent idea if you inject m/w/f it probably helps in keeping levels a little bit more stable.

 

[Gemini Bandit]

I make my PrimoE 200mg/ml with 2% BA 20% BB in MCT oil, never had pip not even once.

Why you decided for Castor oil?

I consider you lucky. PIP is just a day in my life.... I love primo but it was killing me with a pain so I had to try something. My wife uses Castor oil for everything including Sunburn and basically any other skin related issues (if you get burnt don't rub aloe or any other moisturisers on it I swear rub straight castor on it and pain will be gone in the morning )

Of all the easily available carrier oils from my research it showed to have the best anti inflammatory properties among countless other benefits so figured its worth a try. Also I had some Bayer test a while back and it was the only thing that didn't seem to hurt and I believe that's made with Castor.

 

[eery]

Castor oils is amazing if you are not pushing high volumes (not because you can't...it's just more of a pita to inject high volume xD but completely doable) casto has antiinflammatory properties that's why probably you ain't getting PIP.

However I have brewed NPP200 in MCT with no PIP so personally I use castor only for what I can't brew without PIP in MCT (due to high concentration) mostly as a last resort.

Even so I'm starting to think I'll brew many more stuff in castor for it's healthy properties especially things I usually inject with a 1ml syringe (very easy to inject even castor with those).

NPP in castor is excellent idea if you inject m/w/f it probably helps in keeping levels a little bit more stable.

Perhaps there could be a sweetspot with getting the antiinflammatory effect of the castor oil with a good viscosity by mixing MCT and castor oil? best of both worlds?


Keep us updated on the 250-300mg/ml primo brewing, thats intriguing!

 

[Sampei]

Perhaps there could be a sweetspot with getting the antiinflammatory effect of the castor oil with a good viscosity by mixing MCT and castor oil? best of both worlds?


Keep us updated on the 250-300mg/ml primo brewing, thats intriguing!

I mean injecting castor is not that complicated, Like you can inject easily with a 27g (impossible to draw of course) if you heat the oil on a mug warmer it will flow no problem.

Mixing the two oils can be achieved but hard to say if it's worth it both for viscosity and anti inflammatory effect, I'll test it in the future but not very soon.

I don't have much incentive to do it either, like If I ever do it is gonna be more for the science lol as the only substance I'm still fighting with is primo to have it at higher concentration than 200mg and be pipless.

I have brewed until now:
Test D 500
EQ 500
Masteron E 400
NPP 200
Test C 300
Tren E 250
Deca 400

All in MCT.
all give me 0 Pip. So you understand that starting to try mixes of castor/mct is not really appealing for me as I have no need for it.

dat damn Primo however xD funny is that the most expensive raw is the one I need to experiment with ahaha

 

[MyNameIsJeff]

If you make 300mg/ml PIP-less Primo in Castor oil, then you are gonna have to become a source.