Purple Tops from PPL

[flagcia]

Greetings again, this time I come with a couple bloodworks from Purple Tops. It was made following the same procedure as in this paper [ Pharmacokinetics of recombinant human growth hormone administered by cool.click™ 2, a new needle-free device, compared with subcutaneous administration using a conventional syringe and needle ], since I supposed IM is adds more pharmacokinetic variability than abdominal subcutaneous.

Injected 10IU (1mL from a 2,4mL syringe containing 24IUs) in the right side, lower abs region at 10:30, and blood was drown at the clinic closing time, 14:00, so the results fall in the 2,5 hours value.

Result: 12,74ng/mL
Pharma grade expected result: around 17,5ng/mL (for 10IU, in study is around 8IU)



Notes:
+ vaccuum was higher than any stuff used before and water came so fast it made foam. [+5%]
+ delivery time was 1 month, climate conditions unknown [+5%]
+ walked 25min from home to clinic (its said not to make exercise before testing) [+5%]
- in the study they used 2,92mg = 7.884IU [1mg=2,7IU] obtaining around 14,5ng/mL at 2,5h. [-25%]

Conclussion: taking into account pros and cons, I'd dare to say it has an 85-90% potency compared with pharma grade when leaving their warehouse (before transport, etc).

Experience: I was diagnosed with hypopituitarism recently and I started to self medicate until my doctor makes me another bloodwork (yes, I will stop using rHGH 1 month before that) to confirm the diagnose and prescribe me pharma rHGH. Apart from tiredness, crap memory and many other symtoms, the most accute was not being able to sleep more than 3-3,5h in a row. From the first day (I'm using 4IU of it before sleep, 4IUs of PTs, which might be equivalent to 2,5-3IU of pharma grade) I started sleeping 8-8,5h like a baby.

Personal opinion: for that price.. is more than a great deal (IU to €/$ is cheaper than anywhere else) and, specially for me, has literally brought me my back to life.

 

[FiEnD]

Dafuq?

 

[LordSamuilo]

Conclussion: taking into account pros and cons, I'd dare to say it has an 85-90% potency compared with pharma grade when leaving their warehouse

Wtf ? Did you eat paint chips as a child op ? Because thats the only conclusion ive been able to peice together with this post ...

 

[Evom1]

Wtf ? Did you eat paint chips as a child op ? Because thats the only conclusion ive been able to peice together with this post ...

OK good, I'm not the only one who read this thinking "uhhh"

 

[Giveitago]

OK good, I'm not the only one who read this thinking "uhhh"

Definitely not the only one. Excited to see bloods on PPL purple tops but after reading it a few times I was lost.

 

[LordSamuilo]

OK good, I'm not the only one who read this thinking "uhhh"

I had to read it a few times just to make sure I wasnt losing something in translation, but ... No , just a bunch of nonsensical shillery going on here

 

[Evom1]

I had to read it a few times just to make sure I wasnt losing something in translation, but ... No , just a bunch of nonsensical shillery going on here

Right... Why can't he just do it the same way everyone does it that way we can compare accurately

 

[flagcia]

Sorry for not doing the typical IM 10IUs, just tried this because seems to be more accurate, less individual dependent.

In order to make things clear, I tried to estimate a % of potency compared with pharma grade taking into account mistakes I made or shipping time under X climate conditions [+%] and results which are lower than pharma grade [-%]

Then I estimated a 100-25+5+5+5=90% of potency.

Sorry if this method is a bit long and wasted some minutes of your time. Hope some other user post an easy-to-read IM protocol bloodwork to make it easy for those who just wanna see a 25 value to sleep well, but, remember that method is very very very innacurate and user dependent.

 

[flagcia]

I had to read it a few times just to make sure I wasnt losing something in translation, but ... No , just a bunch of nonsensical shillery going on here

Maybe you just need to learn to sum and divide. Did you miss secondary education or are you so disrespectful everytime you find anyrhing that scapes your mental abilities?

Just open the study or the graph itself, look for the result around 2,5h and extrapolate it for 10Ius because it was made with 2,92mg=7.8IUs. Thats the puzzle missing piece I avoid to describe in order to keep the post as small and concise I could.

 

[LordSamuilo]

Sorry for not doing the typical IM 10IUs, just tried this because seems to be more accurate, less individual dependent.

Thats why igf w/ baseline bloods to compare against is the preferred method to test hgh via blood work !

n order to make things clear, I tried to estimate a % of potency compared with pharma grade taking into account mistakes I made or shipping time under X climate conditions [+%] and results which are lower than pharma grade [-%]

Randonly pulling numbers out of yours ass (on variables that you dont know effect quality +/- ) doesnt accurately quantify the difference in quality between pharma and GGH ..

Then I estimated a 100-25+5+5+5=90% of potency

Numbers you pulled out of thin air ...

Did you miss secondary education or are you so disrespectful everytime you find anyrhing that scapes your mental abilities?

You had 5 of your 6 posts pushing blood work and labmax in a community you previously had zero alligience to (obviously with and agenda ) , and then cant even follow the laid out protocol of the community and expect anyone to take you seriously(see i can can" SUM and DIVIDE" just fine )? Thats what i find disrespectful ! So enjoy your store credit and gtfoh. ...

 

[flagcia]

About my baseline, suffering from hypopituitarism, igf-1 is always around 90 and my GH showed a max value of 3.6 during an insulinic hypoglicemia GH secretion test, when normal values are over 10. (I dont have measure units on hand here in bed, sorry)
I did this bloofwork the same day I received it to make sure it was legit GH so my igf wouldn't have changed.

Once knowing this stuff is legit I tried to justify why I could have obtained a lower value because I made some mistakes like generating too much foam. Wouldnt be fair to just use the plain result giving a medium/poor value without taking into account it has been 1 month out of fridge moving around the world, the foam issue...

Well, next time (probably very soon since I wanna check my e2 levels) I will follow your IM protocol to stick to the community. Sorry @LordSamuilo if Ive been rude or disrespectful, I wrote this with my best intentions.

Just to make sure, could you confirm me the protocol? 10IU intramuscular (which muscle) and what time I get blood drawn, 2.5, 3, 3.5h??
Thanks in advance.

PS:fuck, is the first time I dont have a good sleep since I started using this!

 

[Holistic]

Sorry for not doing the typical IM 10IUs, just tried this because seems to be more accurate, less individual dependent.

In order to make things clear, I tried to estimate a % of potency compared with pharma grade taking into account mistakes I made or shipping time under X climate conditions [+%] and results which are lower than pharma grade [-%]

Then I estimated a 100-25+5+5+5=90% of potency.

Sorry if this method is a bit long and wasted some minutes of your time. Hope some other user post an easy-to-read IM protocol bloodwork to make it easy for those who just wanna see a 25 value to sleep well, but, remember that method is very very very innacurate and user dependent.

The key is to follow protocol to see a comparison of your numbers to other people who follow the same protocol. We all know there are a ton of variables before it gets to the end user.... You over thought this whole process a bit too much.

 

[flagcia]

The key is to follow protocol to see a comparison of your numbers to other people who follow the same protocol. We all know there are a ton of variables before it gets to the end user.... You over thought this whole process a bit too much.

Please let me insist, could you tell me exactly how is the protocol? Which muscle, time to bloodwork?

 

[ickyrica]

@ddp7 is this you?

 

[CAswole]

FML.... just flat out stumped on this one gents.

 

[CAswole]

Before my last recent blood work I extrapolated 5% because I took a shit 45 minutes prior to blood work, walked 37 Paces from my car to the front door of the lab. Another 20 Paces to the elevator, took an elevator up, walked another 10 Paces to the exam room... I deducted another 5% for staring at a chick's ass too long in the waiting room also. But I think my blood work is good to go.

 

[flagcia]

I was just trying to help and give all the info I could to justify a maybe little low result due to my mistakes while preserving the reputation of PPL since I'm feeling great using this product. Specially that foam issue is said to have a very bad impact on results. Sorry for extrapolating so randomly but clever people would just read the result and the facts that could have lowered it, instead of attacking me for trying to make an estimation for illiterate people like you.

Apart from that, taking into account that I'm spanish, you could save your lower class slang to speak with your mother, because I'm missing half of this conversation.

 

[flagcia]

Now, to shut some of your stupid mouths, I must insist, could you PLEASE tell me which muscle and what window of time should I make the 10IU IM injection? I will make a new bloodwork following your protocol as soon as I receive a new batch in a couple weeks so I can check if its quality is as good as this one and satisfy your short of views which cannot understand a result that is not made following your comfort zone protocol.

 

[CAswole]

I was just trying to help and give all the info I could to justify a maybe little low result due to my mistakes while preserving the reputation of PPL since I'm feeling great using this product. Specially that foam issue is said to have a very bad impact on results. Sorry for extrapolating so randomly but clever people would just read the result and the facts that could have lowered it, instead of attacking me for trying to make an estimation for illiterate people like you.

Apart from that, taking into account that I'm spanish, you could save your lower class slang to speak with your mother, because I'm missing half of this conversation.

Believe me, you didn't have to tell us that you're missing half of the conversation. I think the only surprise here is that you think your ONLY missing half. LOL

 

[flagcia]

1.- Posted this in order to be of help for all those looking for a legit source of HGH, specially those really needing it for health reasons, like me.
2.- Came with my best intentions, not for the coupon code from PPL staff, since I have plenty of all that I need. Dont think I will need a coupon for several months.
3.- In order to play safe, I did bloodwork the same day I received it and unluckily the clinic was closing 2,5h just after I received it.ç
4.- Since IM pharmacokinetics is very dependant of the person, I tried and managed to find a SC protocol with a complete curve to compare with.
5.- I've politely offered you to make another bloodwork ASAP and even if I asked 2 or 3 times you to tell me exactly how to procceed, you only focused your time in discrediting me instead of telling me how to do it right.
6.- If you dont like what you read please leave this thread. If you're full of tren and wanna spread some hate please find someone else. I'm here only with good intentions so I wont keep being part of this unpolite conversation.

Have a good week.