[QSC] Test C + Anavar [16 weeks] [3/30/23]

[Smolllbutswolll]

Howdy!

26y/o 5’5 155lbs probably 19ish BF%

This will be my 2nd cycle. I was very irresponsible with my first cycle and while I made some decent gains (185lbs 15%) I didn’t learn anything about dialing in my AI or how I aromatize, and also lost all those gains.

I plan on running Test C 350mg a week for 20 weeks (not 16, I accidentally hit submit before I could change), and adding in Anavar for the last 5 weeks 25mg a day, possibly increasing to 50mg a day for the last 2 weeks. I will be pinning on mondays and thursdays. I got the Test C through Cridi’s resale shop, and I will be getting the Anavar from GoodLyfe.

I am hoping I will not need AI at this dosage, but if I get sides I will dose accordingly. I have arimidex on hand and I will be getting labs at 5/6 weeks to be sure.

I do not need to worry about PCT because I will be blasting and cruising. My current test levels are 490ng/dL

I just started a cut, and will be continuing this for the first 4 weeks of the cycle. The rest of the cycle will be a clean bulk.
My maintenance = 2322cals
Cut (-10%) = 2090cals
Bulk (+10%) = 2555
200g protein. 70g fat during cut. 100g fat during bulk. Rest of calories from carbs.

Let me know if you think I should change my diet around, I’m open to any advice on that!

 

[Smolllbutswolll]

I’m running an Upper/Lower routine 2x a week. I’m a rock climber so that gives me the ability to climb 2-3 times a week on my rest days, while still hitting each body part 2x a week

 

[Smolllbutswolll]

First pin today. Qingdao Test C that came back as 225mg. Each pin will be .75mL so approx 175mg

My planned workout today…
Lower1:

SQUATS warmup then widowmakers 20 reps

Lying Leg Curls 5x8-12

Leg Extensions 4x8-12

Machine Calves 5x8-12

Abductions 4x10-15

Adductions 4x10-15

Adding Tri’s and Abs because they’re my weak points

TRIS single arm pulldown 4x8-12

ABS Ab wheel 4 sets

The rep scheme is set up so I do a weight I can at least get the minimum reps for every set. Once I get the maximum reps for every set, then I up the weight next time.
I honestly don’t care about strength, just want max hypertrophy. Weight is only for progressive overload

 

[Rido]

Good luck with everything brother. We are here as a community to support you!

 

[All Nats McGee]

You ever get any bloodwork done during your first cycle?

 

[akrmbdnt]

what do you use for your first cycle?

 

[Smolllbutswolll]

No bloodwork at all. My first cycle was 16 weeks 500mg test E. Tbol 40mg for like 2 weeks, ramped up to 100mg 2 more weeks. I also ran Proviron 50mg for 7 weeks, and towards the last half of the cycle I ran the test E up to a gram. I had no AI schedule, I just took aromasin whenever I felt like it. I was a bloated, acne-covered mess. Don’t remember the dose but I took torem for PCT, that’s all I could get from pharmacom.

 

[Smolllbutswolll]

Wasn’t able to do my leg day until today. Holy shit I’m glad I saved the widowmakers for the last exercise. I just spent the last 10 min in my car trying not to puke or pass out

 

[Smolllbutswolll]

Upper body day today! Just finished lifting, can’t wait to pin again tomorrow

Upper1:

Cable Crunches 4x10-15

Stair Calf Raises 100reps

BB Rows 4x6-10

Decline Hammer Strength 5x8-12

Pulldowns 4x8-12

DB Lateral Raises 5x6-10

Preacher DB Curls 4x10-15

Tri Pushdowns Rope 4x10-15

I’m really hoping my tri’s and calves get some good size during this blast, those are 2 of my biggest weak points. I’ve been training them every time I’m in the gym lately

 

[Smolllbutswolll]

Leg day again today! Really hoping to add some mass to my calves. Trying 100 reps every training day to see if that works. I just always feel it more in my feet for some reason

Lower2:

Stair Calf Raises 100reps

Prone Leg Curls 4x8-12

Adductions 4x8-12

Abductor machine is broken

RDL 4x8-12

Smith Lunges 4x8-12
First time doing these, almost did a Bulgarian split squat style but no bench. Really hard

OH Tri rope Ext 4x8-12
Gonna do single arm next time

Hanging Leg Raises 3 sets


I’m really thinking of running the anavar now as a kickstart to the cycle, 25mg a day PWO along with my coffee (I read that caffeine boosts the bioavailability)

 

[HB_22]

You only train twice a week or do you train your split twice a week (so 2 times lower + 2 times upper)?

 

[Smolllbutswolll]

You only train twice a week or do you train your split twice a week (so 2 times lower + 2 times upper)?

Split twice a week. I also rock climb 2-3 times a week, so that way I have time for both

 

[Smolllbutswolll]

Took 25mg anavar PWO
I finished my workout an hour and a half ago and I still have a slight pump, my clothes definitely feel tighter. It’s like my all my muscles have a half chub. Libido definitely up as well. Got a few extra reps on a couple exercises. Looking forward to the gains these next few weeks.

Still in a 500 calorie deficit and aiming for at least 200g protein

Here was today’s workout

Upper 2:

Cable Crunches 4x10-15

Stair Calf Raises 100 reps

Seated Rows 5x8-12

Incline Bench 4x8-12

DB Lateral Raises 5x10-15

Machine Flys 4x8-12

Face Pulls 4x10-15

Tricep Pulldowns Vbar 4x8-12

BB Curls 4x6-10


And that’s my workout plan on repeat, sometimes I’ll swap an exercise if it’s taken. I’m also going to add OHP to Upper1.

Pin day tomorrow!

 

[Smolllbutswolll]

So I just stepped on the scale and I’m up to 165 now. Gotta be all water weight but it freaked me out because I’m extremely strict on my diet. Literally just eating chicken, rice, and protein shakes, and I measure everything out. 10% caloric deficit.

I’m guessing it’s due to estrogen, but I actually feel really good and I’m unsure if I should start AI now or not while I still feel this good. Other sides right now are feeling hot all the time, stomach bloat, raging libido, and it takes me forever to finish.

I do have anastrazole 1mg tabs, and I was planning on getting bloods but not until week 5 or 6

Can anyone please give me some feedback on this? Should I just deal with this bloat and water retention while I cut until I get more sides?

 

[Rido]

So I just stepped on the scale and I’m up to 165 now. Gotta be all water weight but it freaked me out because I’m extremely strict on my diet. Literally just eating chicken, rice, and protein shakes, and I measure everything out. 10% caloric deficit.

I’m guessing it’s due to estrogen, but I actually feel really good and I’m unsure if I should start AI now or not while I still feel this good. Other sides right now are feeling hot all the time, stomach bloat, raging libido, and it takes me forever to finish.

I do have anastrazole 1mg tabs, and I was planning on getting bloods but not until week 5 or 6

Can anyone please give me some feedback on this? Should I just deal with this bloat and water retention while I cut until I get more sides?

Sorry. I know you sent me an email.

I was gonna respond, just been busy this morning.

So everyone varies. Water weight gain is not a reason to take an AI unless you do have high e2 and it is causing issues(Everything else has been ruled out).

Your glycogen retention will be significantly higher. Which is why your muscles look fuller. This is most likely the cause.

Personally I gain 10-12 lbs on blast alone. I would advise to not take anastrazole. you could get bloods as early as week 4(5 would probably be better)

Just focus on the mirror. not what the scale says. I know its hard to do but after week 5, and blood stabilizes. Then you can pay a little more attention to the scale if you want.

 

[Smolllbutswolll]

Sorry. I know you sent me an email.

I was gonna respond, just been busy this morning.

So everyone varies. Water weight gain is not a reason to take an AI unless you do have high e2 and it is causing issues(Everything else has been ruled out).

Your glycogen retention will be significantly higher. Which is why your muscles look fuller. This is most likely the cause.

Personally I gain 10-12 lbs on blast alone. I would advise to not take anastrazole. you could get bloods as early as week 4(5 would probably be better)

Just focus on the mirror. not what the scale says. I know its hard to do but after week 5, and blood stabilizes. Then you can pay a little more attention to the scale if you want.

Okay thank you. I’ll hold off then.

I was hoping it was just glycogen retention but my stomach is also pretty bloated today. Yesterday I could clearly see abs so maybe that’s just something I ate today

What are the biggest sides you personally look out for to know when to dose your AI?

 

[Rido]

Okay thank you. I’ll hold off then.

I was hoping it was just glycogen retention but my stomach is also pretty bloated today. Yesterday I could clearly see abs so maybe that’s just something I ate today

What are the biggest sides you personally look out for to know when to dose your AI?

My wife and I swing. My biggest concern is lessened dick sensitivity.

It will take time to learn what your high e2 issues are.

 

[Smolllbutswolll]

8th pin today! Ending my 4th week.

Feelin HUGE even though I’m cutting. I’m actually up to 177. Feeling completely blown up with glycogen which is nice during a 10% caloric deficit.

Also on 50mg anavar daily

Been steady with everything including macros, so I’m pretty sure I’m just holding so much water because I have been having lots of salt.

Gonna start taking potassium citrate to help with the water retention.

Either way my strength has gone way up, I’m going to be getting bloods in about a week and a half to check my estrogen levels for sure along with my T. Curious what 350 has brought mine up to and what my E is. Was really hoping 350 would be the perfect number me to not need an AI but I have arimidex just in case.

 

[Deezznutzz]

Why a cut at 155? You can get to 190ish natural with food. 350 test won't do much. Barely put you at 2200ish testosterone level. Without bloodwork you're just guessing your estrogen but 80% of people need .5m arimidex every 100mg of testosterone. You can take less arimidex and feel great too. Personally I feel great on close to 600 testosterone and 1mg arimidex with every 275-300mg testosterone shot. So 2mg arimidex a week. I bet that puts my estrogen in the high 40's but I will have labs soon to see.

 

[tuffie]

Why a cut at 155? You can get to 190ish natural with food. 350 test won't do much. Barely put you at 2200ish testosterone level. Without bloodwork you're just guessing your estrogen but 80% of people need .5m arimidex every 100mg of testosterone. You can take less arimidex and feel great too. Personally I feel great on close to 600 testosterone and 1mg arimidex with every 275-300mg testosterone shot. So 2mg arimidex a week. I bet that puts my estrogen in the high 40's but I will have labs soon to see.

.5m arimedex every day? once every week? or 2? ..... yeah thats guessing without bloodwork and listenining to the nips (feels)..

Just take nolvadex. Really question why docs or these forums peoples even suggest AI's... is it because gyno? is it because bro its a fad to not take them... is it because they have your best interest? ... LOL

Really theres people in this forum who started with AI's before they even touched AAS.. becareful who you take adivice from. you only know how your body reacts...