question about 1-ad

[chrisremo]

hey guys, do u think the 60 caps of 1-ad will do nething or should i get the 120 caps?

 

[Beefy]

I can't speak from personal experience, but from observing many friends experiment w/ prohormones and steroids, I've got to say that for the money prohormones just aren't worth it. For the price of 180 1-AD caps (which is an 8-12 week cycle if used by directions, but most people I know take at least 6-8 a day when using them alone) is some where around $90-$100. For that much money you could get enough D-Bol to have at least a good 4-6 week cycle. If you go by the suggested dose, 1-AD will give you about 5-10 lbs. of weight gain (assuming you eat and train right), but you can also expect acne and a good amount of water gain.

My advice would be to get some D-Bol. You'll get much more results for the money. If you're concerned with the legality or availability of D-Bol, and you really want to go with a prohormone, get some M1T. Eat 20 mg for every 100 lbs of body weight in doses spread out evenly over the course of the day.

Nothing against prohormones, but based on the results I've witnessed first hand, they just don't come close to the real thing. In many cases you'll get all of the unwanted side effects with almost no real results.

 

[fulforb]

Your suggesting 40mg of M1T for a 200lb person. That is a lot of M1T for anyone. Most boards suggest never going above 20mg a day for anyone. I have done 30mg but had to back it down because of the sides.

 

[chrisremo]

Beefy, Ive tried D-Bols b4, and I loved the results I got, but I cant find the shit ANYWHERE anymore...when I was in highschool I could get easily cuz I knew a few people but now schools over and I havent seen or talked to these guys...And I dont know what their cell #s are either which blows...I know 1-AD has many side effects, but if I drink alot of water, the acne wont affect me that bad...Atleast I dont think so...Ive done research on M1T, could I buy that at GNC or Vitamin Shoppe?

 

[whitey]

hey guys, do u think the 60 caps of 1-ad will do nething or should i get the 120 caps?

bro, just from my experience, 1-AD may not be the best use of your money. I guess I've probably run 5 or 6 pro-hormone cycles, and I would say the real problem with these substances is they are generally not orally active and have relatively low conversion rates to their target hormone. The problem is not do they work, it's can you get enough of them.

Now it depends on the individual, but doses in the 800-1200mg/ED range are not uncommon. That's consistent with my experience as well, before seeing results. I'm not recommending that as a dose, just an illustration of how expensive it can be - blowing through a bottle of 120 caps in 2 weeks at about $100 a bottle. 1-ad is one of the more expensive pro-hormones out there.

Frankly, the only legal product I've found to have significant results is M-1T, probably because it's not a pro-hormone at all, but rather an orally-active steroid. Recommended beginning doses are closer to the 10-20 mg/ED range, because you don't know how your body will react to the sides. For me, the sides were negligible at lower doses 10-15mg, became noticeable at 20mg and unbearable at 40mg. The thing that killed me was extreme pumps - in my calves it felt like blood vessels were exploding, and prevented me from doing pretty much any leg exercises. Even walking was painful. My other sides were increased blood pressure and lethargy - which seem to be pretty common.

I gotta agree with these bros, prohormones are overpriced compared to their benefits. And even though they are weak, you still must do proper post cycle therapy to recover your natural hormone levels. Do your research and make a good choice. I'd encourage you not to just run out to GNC and pick something up. Do the research, go online and you can buy everything you need to do a cycle right for the same price as you would pay for a bottle of whatever bullshit stuff they carry over there at GNC.

Peace

 

[whitey]

Your suggesting 40mg of M1T for a 200lb person. That is a lot of M1T for anyone. Most boards suggest never going above 20mg a day for anyone. I have done 30mg but had to back it down because of the sides.

Agreed, that was similar to my experience. I'm 6'0" 210. 40mg was too much for me. Again, all depends on the person. But there are a LOT of people out there saying this stuff is really, really bad on the liver. It's just too new to know for sure how it compares to the liver-toxic AAS like d-bol and anavar. Be careful.

 

[chrisremo]

thanx for the info guys, i totally appreciate it...my bro bought me NOXPLODE today dunno if im gunna use it yet..but ill def continue my research...i guess ur rite about the 1-ad..but about m1t, i dunno much about it...

 

[whitey]

thanx for the info guys, i totally appreciate it...my bro bought me NOXPLODE today dunno if im gunna use it yet..but ill def continue my research...i guess ur rite about the 1-ad..but about m1t, i dunno much about it...

you got the right idea, man. continue the research. start with the diet, then the workout plan, then supplements. you'll save yourself a lot of money by researching any product before you buy. i'd say probably 95% of all legal supplements out there (besides protein and other essential nutrients) do little to no good. i'd also find a reputable online retailer for your supplement needs. Good luck, bro.

 

[chrisremo]

Ya thats wat Im takin right now, protein, creatine, glutamine, and multi...i mean i got the experience with the weights, ive been lifting for a few years now but when it comes to PHs, i dont know much...im excited my bro got me the noxplode tho, i cant wait to use that when i do..

 

[Bob Smith]

Ive tried a bunch of different PHs and gotta say that the only one that has done anything for me is Methyl-Dien. One of our sponsors, http://alrindustries.com/aff/clickthru.pl?id=bobsmith, has it and it is excellent stuff. IMO, you cant find anything better that is legal. I have actually been quite surprised by how well the stuff works.

 

[big gig]

i'm not sure if i'm the only one who caught this but suggesting a d-bol only cycle isn't that great of an idea either, add some test and it would be great alone don't plan on keeping much.

 

[sfoclt]

Methyl Dien

Bob,
Can you stack Methyl Dien with anything else?

I've been doing 4AD for 2 week on/2 week off cycles for a bit and gained 5 pounds of muscle (not great, but about what I would have expected). The methyl cycle doesn't seem to overlap (4 on/12 off?) so stacking might be impossible.

Any thoughts?

 

[Bob Smith]

You can certainly stack Methyl-dien with 4AD if you wanted. Recommended dosing schedule for it is 2-4 weeks on, 2-4 weeks off, so that would work well with what you already have set up. I think combining those two would probably make for an awesome legal stack.