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vanjarus

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This question i was send to many boards,i dont now how many,but it seems no one have right answer to this.My question is:after been on the testosterone enanhate for prolonged time(lets say 1000mg for more then a half year),why we develop impotence, or significantly decrease sex drive.If we keep in mind that high testo. levels have a positive impact on erections.You are endocrinologist,and you probably now whats the main cause of this fenomena.I now for hormone who is primary responsible for loosing libido- high level of prolactine!But on my lab tests prolactine level is in the normal range.SWALE,can you give me the right answer???
 
vanjarus said:
This question i was send to many boards,i dont now how many,but it seems no one have right answer to this.My question is:after been on the testosterone enanhate for prolonged time(lets say 1000mg for more then a half year),why we develop impotence, or significantly decrease sex drive.If we keep in mind that high testo. levels have a positive impact on erections.You are endocrinologist,and you probably now whats the main cause of this fenomena.I now for hormone who is primary responsible for loosing libido- high level of prolactine!But on my lab tests prolactine level is in the normal range.SWALE,can you give me the right answer???



Come on guys,is there anyone on the board who can give the answer?
 
First, I am not an Endocrinologist. I am but a lowly GP who broke away from conventional medical training to concentrate full time on manipulating hormone levels in male patients. The trip to the cutting edge went much faster that way.

The plain truth is we do not know why this happens. But it is consistently reported too many times to ignore.

And you do not have to go anywhere near that high in dosing to achieve the same bad result. I have had quite a few patients come in (perhaps "treated" by some online "HRT Clinic") with androgen levels, say, twice the top of normal range. I bring them back down to the upper quartile. They tend to squawk a bit at first, but once their T levels are nestled within that upper quartile, their libido comes right back. And it tends to stay that way! They also report they just feel much better. That is another reason why appropriate TRT ONLY goes to the top of normal range.

Everyone who has supplemented testosterone--whether as AAS or TRT--will tell you that AT FIRST all they wanted to was to follow their penis around all day. This is because when serum androgen levels are accelerating, libido rockets as well. And while it is dropping--even when dropping to the top of normal range--libido falls away, too. Then it re-equilibrates.

I'd also have to ask whether estrogen is being controlled. It can flatten sexual function, too. That is one reason why it must always be controlled, I prefer to keep it near midrange. The best reason for doing that, though, is that elevated estrogen levels are very bad for your health.
 
SWALE said:
First, I am not an Endocrinologist. I am but a lowly GP who broke away from conventional medical training to concentrate full time on manipulating hormone levels in male patients. The trip to the cutting edge went much faster that way.

The plain truth is we do not know why this happens. But it is consistently reported too many times to ignore.

And you do not have to go anywhere near that high in dosing to achieve the same bad result. I have had quite a few patients come in (perhaps "treated" by some online "HRT Clinic") with androgen levels, say, twice the top of normal range. I bring them back down to the upper quartile. They tend to squawk a bit at first, but once their T levels are nestled within that upper quartile, their libido comes right back. And it tends to stay that way! They also report they just feel much better. That is another reason why appropriate TRT ONLY goes to the top of normal range.

Everyone who has supplemented testosterone--whether as AAS or TRT--will tell you that AT FIRST all they wanted to was to follow their penis around all day. This is because when serum androgen levels are accelerating, libido rockets as well. And while it is dropping--even when dropping to the top of normal range--libido falls away, too. Then it re-equilibrates.

I'd also have to ask whether estrogen is being controlled. It can flatten sexual function, too. That is one reason why it must always be controlled, I prefer to keep it near midrange. The best reason for doing that, though, is that elevated estrogen levels are very bad for your health.

Swale,thank you for honest answer.But if i am understood,you advice me to wait untill my endogenous testo.and other hormones come back to normal range,and also my libido will comeback?
Curently,i was off for about 2 months,and my lab tests is:

Estradiol 17pg/ml
Testosterone total 5ng/ml
Prolactine 3ng/ml

As you can see,my lab tests shows that my hormone is in the normal range,except maybe for testo.,he should be a litle higher,am i right?
Should i continue clomid therapy,or should i leave the clomid and wait till everything back to normal?
Thanks again.
 
Swale,what should i do,to take time off and wait for my hormones to go back in the uper range, or should i take testost.enanthate in dose of 250mg weekly,and with that protocol try to get everything to normal???

Help!
 
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More than likely, time will straighten everything out.

If you start taking testosterone (especially that much!) you will just suppress your system all over again.
 
SWALE said:
More than likely, time will straighten everything out.

If you start taking testosterone (especially that much!) you will just suppress your system all over again.

SWALE,thank you very much,appreciate your advice!!!
 
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