Questioning my gear/Bloods advice

[JohnRay81]

So I am at the end of week 5 of my current cycle of 500 test c pw/50mg dbol ed. But I am beginning to question the quality of my gear as I have still yet to feel a kick from the test in comparison to previous cycles. Let me clarify that this is my first cycle to run in about 8 years but I just remember really being able to feel the test kicking in/getting definite symptoms on my cycles years ago. Yes this is somewhat objective I know but I also read a recent post on here about someone getting bunk gear from this exact same lab. I figure the only obvious solution is to get bloods done to see where my T is at but this is where I need some advice. I just finished up the dbol this week and can say that I can tell the dbol does work to some degree as I have gained some water weight pretty fast and I have some noticeable bloat going on in my face but I just do not feel confident in the oil. So how long should I wait to get bloods in order for the dbol to clear and the bloodwork to reflect the quality of the oil as much as possible. I know dbol has a short halflife but would I be g2g on getting bloods done sometime next week?

 

[Bubba0706]

So I am at the end of week 5 of my current cycle of 500 test c pw/50mg dbol ed. But I am beginning to question the quality of my gear as I have still yet to feel a kick from the test in comparison to previous cycles. Let me clarify that this is my first cycle to run in about 8 years but I just remember really being able to feel the test kicking in/getting definite symptoms on my cycles years ago. Yes this is somewhat objective I know but I also read a recent post on here about someone getting bunk gear from this exact same lab. I figure the only obvious solution is to get bloods done to see where my T is at but this is where I need some advice. I just finished up the dbol this week and can say that I can tell the dbol does work to some degree as I have gained some water weight pretty fast and I have some noticeable bloat going on in my face but I just do not feel confident in the oil. So how long should I wait to get bloods in order for the dbol to clear and the bloodwork to reflect the quality of the oil as much as possible. I know dbol has a short halflife but would I be g2g on getting bloods done sometime next week?

You would be good to with testing a long ester like cypionate at 6 weeks. I believe the Meso testing protocol is six weeks, and as close to 48 hours from last pin.

 

[InFlames]

Can u say who the source is? Is that allowed?

But to comment. 5 weeks on Test 500mg with a Dbol kicker. You should be feeling it. The first thing I always notice is better pumps. And wanting to stay in the gym because of that and just more aggression in the gym.

But also. I wouldn't think a source wouldn't sell a bunk Test as that's pretty much everyone's base in any cycle. Could possibly be underdosed or a bad batch that the source doesn't know about. But faking Test would be a horrible choice for a source because if they can't get that right. They aren't gonna get anything else right Imo. If that makes sense.
Again. Can u say the source? And at this point I would get bloods done for your peace of mind or to show it is in fact under dosed or bunk.

 

[InFlames]

You would be good to with testing a long ester like cypionate at 6 weeks. I believe the Meso testing protocol is six weeks, and as close to 48 hours from last pin.

Yea but with a Dbol kicker he should be feeling it now. Atleast Test always kicks in faster for me when I start it with an oral. Or I feel it does. Cause when I drop off the oral I still have the great pumps and aggression in the gym. 5 weeks is plenty to start feeling Test Cyp imo.

EDIT: Just realized u were meaning good to get blood work done. Yea 5 weeks you should be good to get bloods done.....If you aren't on the high side or out of the normal range. Something is wrong.

 

[Bubba0706]

I love the pumps off DBol. This guy should definitely be feeling it.

 

[JohnRay81]

Its from mass builder pharma. Hopefully thats not going against any rules. And like I said Im not saying the gear is for sure bunk, because Im by no means trying to run down a source when Im not certain it is bad, Im just getting skeptical about it in comparison to how I felt on my cycles before. I will get bloods done this next week but if anyone has any experience with them I would love to know. Im aware I shoulda researched this lab to confirm it was g2g but couldnt find much about it other than what someone posted on here a week or so ago.

 

[bolder]

Its from mass builder pharma. Hopefully thats not going against any rules. And like I said Im not saying the gear is for sure bunk, because Im by no means trying to run down a source when Im not certain it is bad, Im just getting skeptical about it in comparison to how I felt on my cycles before. I will get bloods done this next week but if anyone has any experience with them I would love to know. Im aware I shoulda researched this lab to confirm it was g2g but couldnt find much about it other than what someone posted on here a week or so ago.

It sucks that you’re not feeling how you want on your cycle man. I have never ordered from said lab, but you should definitely get bloodwork done (6 weeks in) before you assume the worst.

I think it be better to actually send the product in question in for testing to know for sure! Then you will know exactly what’s in it. (Check out the testing section if you’re interested in that).
Hope everything works out for you bro! Let us know the outcome either way!

 

[JohnRay81]

Thanks for the advice guys! I'll post an update after I get bloodwork done.

 

[T-Bagger]

Its from mass builder pharma. Hopefully thats not going against any rules. And like I said Im not saying the gear is for sure bunk, because Im by no means trying to run down a source when Im not certain it is bad, Im just getting skeptical about it in comparison to how I felt on my cycles before. I will get bloods done this next week but if anyone has any experience with them I would love to know. Im aware I shoulda researched this lab to confirm it was g2g but couldnt find much about it other than what someone posted on here a week or so ago.

Ah Mass Builders. Been hearing bad stuff about them as of late. You have reason to believe you got bunk crap.

 

[taco33150]

@JohnRay81 go read what I wrote about mass builder in the thread that’s in the underground..this was about 3 years ago what I got from him

MASS BUILDER ??

 

[Heavy Iron]

Can u say who the source is? Is that allowed

You can say anything you want on here. Basically don't threaten someone or their family and don't doxx (reveal identity) of someone. Other than that anything goes. lol

 

[JohnRay81]

@JohnRay81 go read what I wrote about mass builder in the thread that’s in the underground..this was about 3 years ago what I got from him

MASS BUILDER ??

Yes this is the recent post I read that I was referring to. Have a strong feeling their product hasn't gotten any better since then but we will see what my bloodwork says. Lol

 

[Burrr]

Go ahead and get bloods.
The dbol wont matter.
It could be shit gear, or maybe something else has you feeling off.

 

[88general88]

With all do respecf proof is in the pudding. My test levels were at 206 before his test prop. A week on and fasting for 18hours Last shot was .ors that 24hrs test was 1432gdl adex brought my e2 to 4 from 36.

 

[Flaming Dragon]

With all do respecf proof is in the pudding. My test levels were at 206 before his test prop. A week on and fasting for 18hours Last shot was .ors that 24hrs test was 1432gdl adex brought my e2 to 4 from 36.

Folks--- Here's a fine example of what you called a Shill of a post!

 

[Heavy Iron]

brought my e2 to 4 from 36.

Good god that sounds miserable

 

[88general88]

Yeah been on Methadone for 10 years, it has saved my life. Got hooked on pain medication one thing led to another. Any opiate destroys test levels, especially Methadone because of its crazy long half life.and having been on trt for 4 of those years and suddenly getting yanked off with of a test, abomb cycle years ago left me In shambles. I am grateful to be out and back on test. My overall well being is 100 times better than it has been for years. Like I said, been back on test prop. 150mg ED. I started taking Letro .5mg Ed, 2weeks before I started my test, then went to adex 1mg eod. Trying to reverse damage from the past. Femara is litterally a gift from god. I don’t have any ties to any sources guys I just placed an order with Pristine because it’s high recommendations from a lot of people, including other sources believe it or not. Don’t understand where flaming idiot gets off stating it is a shill of a post. I am only trying to shed some light info I can contribute.

 

[JohnRay81]

I'm confused. I'll say I'm definitely a newb when it comes to prop and by no means coming out calling you a shill or trying to offend you. But a week on prop wouldn't the gear be working full swing and on 1g pw shouldn't your levels be a lot higher than 1400? Like I said I'm just asking because I don't know much about prop and how fast test levels rise or the bloodwork protocol on it so if someone can clarify that'd be awesome. Anyways I got bloods drawn today so will post results when I get them.

 

[88general88]

I wouldn’t trip bro. Like I said my current experience is good, totally different product but same manufacturer. The bottom line is that there are better sources. Sources here that are proven good based on many tests of blood/gear. That’s why I switched up and just ordered from someone else. I see posted results. Hope this helps. Don’t let negative comments be the deciding factor on your gains. Cheers

 

[88general88]

It was 23 hours after last shot and I had fasted for 18hrs. Prop has a half life of right around 36 hrs. So that would mean that it was already on its decline, and also the amount of letro plus the week and half of adex, affected my levels plus me daily dose of methadone. I am not a doctor though. Maybe someone else can make more sense of it

Also, Just to set things straight, not a junkie that like to just stick myself with needles. Not that I would judge someone if were. I am proud to have gotten right and currently being Weened off the METHADONE.