random vials crashing?!

[whoremoan1]

ok i posted something like this before and picked up a few tips
so before i do my batch i want to get it all right

but anyway ive been having random vials crashing,, so i brew 8 test c and 4 will crash?
i brewed some tren e and the same thing happened, lost about 4 vials out of 8
not all of them are crashing which is what i find weird ?
also none of the fast acting (npp, tren a, test p) are crashing ???
what is going on ?

one thing someone stated was i may have had temperature too high as water started to boil

so the next brew i will do 18/2 and try and dissolve without heating ? (or should i use low temperature?)

any other ideas whats going on ??

 

[dennia]

What BB % have you used before?
Use a regular plate don't mess with water

 

[whoremoan1]

What BB % have you used before?
Use a regular plate don't mess with water

i just stick to basskillers 18/2 calculations

 

[Forthewin1123]

At 18% bb the test shouldn't be crashing.. I've brewed test e test c test prop npp deca tren a and eq with 18/2 I have never had a single vial crash.. and I used medium to low heat just to help it along some except the tren.. tren maybe a little but not much.. the rest I'll go 100-120°f max..
Are you using a magnetic stirrer.. I wanna say maybe your not mixing/blending it well enough. And maybe it's not evenly blended.. idk.. it's odd

 

[whoremoan1]

At 18% bb the test shouldn't be crashing.. I've brewed test e test c test prop npp deca tren a and eq with 18/2 I have never had a single vial crash.. and I used medium to low heat just to help it along some except the tren.. tren maybe a little but not much.. the rest I'll go 100-120°f max..
Are you using a magnetic stirrer.. I wanna say maybe your not mixing/blending it well enough. And maybe it's not evenly blended.. idk.. it's odd

could it be the way theyre stored? ive noticed the ones on outer side of box are the ones that crashed/turned to crystal ? it has been cold where i am lately

not using a magnetic stirrer , just by hand

also im using GSO

could i stir without heat or should i use a bit of heat when brewing test e/c/sus etc?

 

[Oroku_Saki]

What concentration did you use? I had some TrenE crashing at 200mg 15/1 in CSO, but after reheating a little bit it turned out to be okay.
Yesterday i brewed a small testbatch of TestC at 270MG 19/1 in MCT and it seems to hold just fine.
Are you sure you didn't make a mistake with the amounts of solvents?

 

[xmilar]

Where are you storing the vials ? Cold will make them crash

 

[Oroku_Saki]

Where are you storing the vials ? Cold will make them crash

Nah, made the freezertest with my TestC at 200mg 15/1 in CSO, didn't crash after 24h.
You are right with other compounds tho.

 

[whoremoan1]

What concentration did you use? I had some TrenE crashing at 200mg 15/1 in CSO, but after reheating a little bit it turned out to be okay.
Yesterday i brewed a small testbatch of TestC at 270MG 19/1 in MCT and it seems to hold just fine.
Are you sure you didn't make a mistake with the amounts of solvents?

18/2
GSO
never had anything crash in MCT but mct gives me knots , even the pharma MCT

 

[whoremoan1]

Where are you storing the vials ? Cold will make them crash

definetly in a cold area, in a big box ,,, its winter where i am

 

[whoremoan1]

Nah, made the freezertest with my TestC at 200mg 15/1 in CSO, didn't crash after 24h.
You are right with other compounds tho.

really ?? damn i have no idea whats going on ... and whats weird is its not ALL the vials i brew,,, a batch of test c i can have 4 crash out of 8

 

[whoremoan1]

another point also is sus has never crashed, tren a has never crashed, mast p etc..... its just the test c and tren e and not all of the vials just random few????

 

[Forthewin1123]

could it be the way theyre stored? ive noticed the ones on outer side of box are the ones that crashed/turned to crystal ? it has been cold where i am lately

not using a magnetic stirrer , just by hand

also im using GSO

could i stir without heat or should i use a bit of heat when brewing test e/c/sus etc?

I'm not as experienced as some others here like @JetsFan but my guess is ots not stirred /blended well enough..

@whoremoan1 what is the temp? Inside ? I habe my gear go to 50-55°f no?issues

 

[Jet Labs]

could it be the way theyre stored? ive noticed the ones on outer side of box are the ones that crashed/turned to crystal ? it has been cold where i am lately

not using a magnetic stirrer , just by hand

also im using GSO

could i stir without heat or should i use a bit of heat when brewing test e/c/sus etc?

I use a little heat for all my brews and never a problem. I believe your issue is cold combined with gso. Sometimes it doesn't take much cold to crash gear especially in thick gso.

Sit crashed vials in boiled water then cover with towel for 10 minutes then shake vials good. If that doesn't get em back into solution repeat process and if that doesn't work let vials sit in boiling water for 10 minutes, but place something between the vials and bottom of pot so they don't rattle and shatter. 10ml vials are tough as shit so they should be fine. Also don't boil vials with punctured stopper, only non poked stoppers.

If you need any more info tag me

 

[whoremoan1]

I use a little heat for all my brews and never a problem. I believe your issue is cold combined with gso. Sometimes it doesn't take much cold to crash gear especially in thick gso.

Sit crashed vials in boiled water then cover with towel for 10 minutes then shake vials good. If that doesn't get em back into solution repeat process and if that doesn't work let vials sit in boiling water for 10 minutes, but place something between the vials and bottom of pot so they don't rattle and shatter. 10ml vials are tough as shit so they should be fine. Also don't boil vials with punctured stopper, only non poked stoppers.

If you need any more info tag me

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this is why i love this forum, strait up great info from people who are helpful and know theyre stuff! your a legend thank you

 

[whoremoan1]

just did another batch

stirred the hell out of it for about 30 mins to make 100%sure it was mixed
kept on low heat
looks great and everything went good
storing it in a different place which wont be as cold
will keep updated in the coming days

 

[Jet Labs]

just did another batch

stirred the hell out of it for about 30 mins to make 100%sure it was mixed
kept on low heat
looks great and everything went good
storing it in a different place which wont be as cold
will keep updated in the coming days

Where are you storing the vials that's so cold and please don't say your fridge lol

 

[Liska]

Where are you storing the vials that's so cold and please don't say your fridge lol

in his heart.

When they're all huddled together and on the the verge of crashing due to temperature, the outer ones can develop crystals even just on the side facing outwards - I made an illustration:

 

[MisterSuperGod]

just did another batch

stirred the hell out of it for about 30 mins to make 100%sure it was mixed
kept on low heat
looks great and everything went good
storing it in a different place which wont be as cold
will keep updated in the coming days

In the interest of science you should store them exactly as you did the previous vials to see if stirring was the difference maker in all of this.

 

[whoremoan1]

in his heart.

When they're all huddled together and on the the verge of crashing due to temperature, the outer ones can develop crystals even just on the side facing outwards - I made an illustration:
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hahahahahahahahaha this legit made me laugh
but i think your onto it