Reaching a plato with test!

[Phil Burmese1]

I have been taking cycles for the past five years or so. Doing mostly test
and eq. My cycles usually look like this:
1-12 500mg enantate
1-12 400mg eq
I feel that my gains per cycle have reached a plato. I can never seem to get my body weight past 180 pounds of a 5'6" frame. This is during a bulking diet. I have raised the test to 750 and became a complete SOB which is not really an option for me, because I can not even take my own mood swings. In my last post I stated this cycle as an option:
week 1-12 500mg enantate
week 1-12 400mg eq
week 1-3 100mg suspension e/d
w/ possilbe weeks 6-12 30mg of anavar e/d

I have tried d-bol, tren, and others but unfortunatly get the same effect. I always become very angry for no reason, and it becomes to much of a burden on me. I figured if I tried some anavar it would not effect my mood while upping the mg's to increase muscular gain. I am thinking of trying the suspesion, but I am quite positve it will make me nuts as well. Any suggestions on a cycle, or what to do to increase the mg's per week while keeping my temperement at a down low. Any suggestions or comments are really appreciated. Basically I am bored of my normal cycle's and need an increase. Keep in mind I can not use tren, anadrol, or deca, I have used all and get almost an ammediate problem with my nips (Progesterone)
Thank you

 

[j martini]

I think your problems are taining and diet related you are only 180 pounds after 5 years of gear this points towards serious problems as far as training and diet is concerned your doses are more than enougn at the level youre at. Remember that theres a lot more involved in bodybuilding than drugs post your diet and training routine

 

[Instock]

I'll agree with j martini on what he said, but also add I have the same problems as you. I use very large doses of stuff, and have noticed it severely effects my mood negatively. I get severly depressed, and anti-social. So I figured I would go down to average doses which will hurt my gains but make me feel better, but what I did was add GH and Insulin to my lower dosed cycles and I've had BETTER results without the negative effects. For instance my typical cycle used to be:
1200+mg a week test
500mg Tren
600 EQ or Deca
50mg some type of oral

Now all I take is:
600mg Test
500mg EQ or Deca
10IU insulin after workout
4IU GH split during the day
Way better gains with less than half the Anabolics. I feel better and look better.

 

[i_h8clowns]

i'm 5'7" and started my first cycle at 205lbs and ended up 227lbs with 6 yrs training. cycle was 10 wks 400mg test cyp and dbol 20mg/day first two weeks.

i agree w/ above. check out your training and diet. goodluck!

 

[Phil Burmese1]

i'm 5'7" and started my first cycle at 205lbs and ended up 227lbs with 6 yrs training. cycle was 10 wks 400mg test cyp and dbol 20mg/day first two weeks.

i agree w/ above. check out your training and diet. goodluck!

One thing that I did not specify is that I started out training about 10 years ago, at the same height I am now I started at 106 pounds. I am naturally lean, and a hardgainer to start. I trained for six years before I ever took juice! I was hindered when I injured my back, (herniated a disk) and was unalbe to work out for one year, and unable to train legs for the past few years. I just started training legs again, and have already put close to two inches on each leg. I agree with the hole diet thing, I dont beleive it is my training. My protein consumption has not been up to par in the past, but recently with my new diet I have been consuming 250 grams each day. Also with my cycles they generally only last 10 weeks or so, and in the past 5 years since I started with gear, there has been two years where I did not even touch a single thing. And with each cycle I continue to take plenty of time off for recouperation as well. Thank you all for the advice, and like I always say comments are really appreciated.
Thank you

 

[Mark Kerr]

I dont know one could reach a philosopher with AAS, but go ahead and try!

I am just kidding bro, just busting your chops a bit

[MK]

P.S. "Plato" is a philosopher. The word you are looking for is "Plateau."

 

[aneas]

Hell just up the dosage and be angry.

 

[Phil Burmese1]

Hell just up the dosage and be angry.

lol, I like that

 

[chris gordon]

P.S. "Plato" is a philosopher. The word you are looking for is "Plateau."

im glad you did it cause i was goin to

 

[j martini]

how many calories are you consuming each day