Reason of adding BB?

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

Bayer in Nebido uses nearly 50 (!!! yes fifty) %BB.
If I remember well the old Organon Susta from Pakistan contains 10%BA and 0%BB (!!!)
So pharma can sometimes weird.

I read a article on meso that stated at some point the anything around the eu was using 0%ba. He said this isnt a problem because there isnt anything in the solution attracts bacteria that much. Thats just what the article says. I will say i have accidently used ba instead of bb on accident and it wasnt that bad pip wise so i think there is no reason not to add it

 

[1tank1]

Maybe somebody got the old leaflet from the box.
It was very "pippy"

If it did actually have that much BA it probably also explains why I always got test flu and a bad fever/sickness everytime I used it. I always assumed it was coz of the multi esters, different release rates, and fluctuating t-levels early in the cycles, but 10% BA would've added to the sickness problem and injection pain for sure.

I stopped using blends after 3 cycles and switched to single esters after that. Much easier to tolerate 1 ester with low solvent ratios but I don't think commercial ops could work like that coz most need to take into account long storage periods and different room temperatures etc. The high solvents are only there to maintain stability/viscosity in oil based solutions IMO.

 

[Sporting Raisins OH!!]

I've always understood BB is used due to the nature of carrier oils as well as it's solvent and stabilising properties.
Another reason is thinning the oil's for ease of use which might just be personal preference.

 

[randomdude79]

Has anyone experimented and titrated up the amount of BB needed to hold different compounds in solution in different concentrations? It would be nice to know for sure the bare minimum amount of BB necessary.

 

[jJjburton]

Has anyone experimented and titrated up the amount of BB needed to hold different compounds in solution in different concentrations? It would be nice to know for sure the bare minimum amount of BB necessary.

Yes i have made a batch of EQ that was all BB and not oil lol. I just pinned it in my syringe when i mixed it with test no problem no pip. It was like 600 mg EQ lol. Because i totally forgot to add the oil.

 

[jJjburton]

Has anyone experimented and titrated up the amount of BB needed to hold different compounds in solution in different concentrations? It would be nice to know for sure the bare minimum amount of BB necessary.

I just made a batch of 40 mL tren with 14% bb

I know some made test cyp at 2/10

 

[randomdude79]

I just made a batch of 40 mL tren with 14% bb

I know some made test cyp at 2/10

what was the test cyp mg/ml? Thats good info tho. We need a database containing proven formulas for every oil type, compound, and concentration under the sun.

 

[jJjburton]

what was the test cyp mg/ml? Thats good info tho. We need a database containing proven formulas for every oil type, compound, and concentration under the sun.

Test cyp was just 200

 

[origamiwizard8]

Ah I see. I had brewed 200mg/ml primo and it gave me a sick feeling, injected muscle was getting swole and a bit red and pretty hard pip. But no idea what it could have been. I thought maybe the BB but I use ugl's with 20% BB and 2% BA and no issues

I’ve made Primo at 200 mg/ml with 20% BB and it hurt like hell. Every injection lumped and caused bad pip but the stuff worked so I kept shooting. Didn’t need that much BB at all, but I used 20% for Tren A/Test C and it had zero pip for me. Based on so many people reporting that primo is inherently painful I’m willing to bet it was just the actual drug causing this. I could def get away with 15% BB in the future but it’ll be a while until I try it, my hair does not like primo one bit.