Scio Handheld Molecular Scanner

[no1uknw]

I find this product interesting the only concern I have is that the database is online and accessed via the internet. Hopefully they will make the database downloadable or various databases downloadable and useable offline.

http://www.consumerphysics.com/myscio/

From the FAQ


General
http://www.consumerphysics.com/myscio/faq.htm#faq1
The SCiO molecular analyzer is a handheld sensor that can be used to identify the molecular makeup of materials. For example, you can use SCiO to measure properties of foods, cosmetics, clothes, medication, flora, soil, jewels and precious stones, leather, rubber, oils, plastics, and even you or your pet! SCiO can also be used to analyze a material’s ingredients, so you can isolate the concentration of macronutrients (e.g. fat in salad dressing or sugar in fruits), measure hydration levels in plants, and find out your car’s fuel grade. You can use it to identify a pill from an unknown source or to make distinctions between similar substances, like discerning water from an alcoholic beverage and olive oil from sesame oil. You can also track changes in the materials around you, including home-brewed beer, plants, or your physical body. SCiO can only detect materials and objects that were previously uploaded to its database. Out of the box, your SCiO will support a large database containing many materials and applications. However, if you encounter materials that are not supported by the existing database, you can use SCiO to enrich and expand it. You can also share your data with others so that soon everybody can enjoy the data that’s been collected from a worldwide user base.

 

[Capt Forest]

Very interestin.

 

[Mr. Deltoid]

This looks promising? Maybe the researcher kit would be a good investment if I'm understanding it correctly. I'll have to defer to more technologically proficient members.

 

[mercury]

crystal ball would be better

if you want to analyze sample you need GC/MS or LC/MS

 

[Mr. Deltoid]

crystal ball would be better

if you want to analyze sample you need GC/MS or LC/MS

Well I agree that a $1000 kit will never replace a gc/ms or lc/ms but this thing might in time be better/more reliable than a labmax the problem I see from the very brief reading I did was there's no data on aas that's why I suggested the researcher kit as I believe someone proficient could add that data possibly build an app around this technology and said data? I'm not versed enough to know the possibilities, I'm just speculating.

 

[mercury]

I have seen guys who buy scrap metal they have some kind of device to see if is it aluminum, copper or something else. It is special tool to detect just one thing.

It works like labmax it says that it is copper nothing else.

I have been looking around for years how to test gear, there is nothing you can just buy and paly at home.

 

[Mr. Deltoid]

You could be right I don't know however I do know that our technical capabilities are expanding exponentially so I would be very supprised if the technology to make a product that has the these kind of capabilities for a reasonable price is too far off. I would say stay open minded my friend.

 

[Johnson513]

For $250, I'd DEFINITELY give it a shot...

Could be a game changer...

 

[whwlives]

Looks interesting. Would be interesting to test it against known powder standards.

I have to truly wonder what people think happened before 1940.

Russell Marker synthesized Testosterone from Diosgenin (sourced from YAMS) in the late 1930's.

NO GC, NO LC, NO MS, NO NMR. He had melting points, chemical tests, polarimetry, chromatography, other tests, and his brain.

This instrument looks very promising, but don't forget that simple tests such as melting point can tell you a lot for basically free.

 

[no1uknw]

It appears from some demo video's they have that right now it identifies the drug in the medication and simply states what it is. It would be nice to see it display the drug itself and the binding agent (calcium carbonate?) and the percentage of each based on the sample read. Many chinese raw reseller's are cutting their raws with other substances. I'd sure like to know what else is in there along with the active component.

 

[KillaBig]

Very interesting

 

[jymis]

So its more of a fool proof Labmax from what I get out of it. Will say yes Testoserone and possibly give a % of the total? Like they showed with the alcohol example?

 

[curgen]

Interesting. Promising. But I see a major privacy issue: Your data is uploaded and compared to their database for analysis. This is problematic for illicit materials. Less so for controlled but able-to-be-prescribed substances like testosterone, but a bit of a non-starter for highly controlled materials like cocaine, etc.

It is not difficult at all to imagine a LE or intelligence organization strong-arming a firm like this one into providing direct and real-time access to information identifying those users identifying certain substances on a regular basis, like military-grade explosives as an obvious example.

An easy solution is simply to make the database available for download and off-line use, which will hopefully come with future versions. It likely needs to be recharged anyway, so plugging it into a USB port instead of wireless communication isn't much of an inconvenience.

I believe many people would prefer some measure of privacy with their results if they're going to be zapping their moles or poop or boogers and so on.

 

[Johnson513]

I can't get this fuc$en company to email me back... It's pissing me off... I will post if I receive any info.


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[Kinikuman]

I can't get this fuc$en company to email me back... It's pissing me off... I will post if I receive any info.

They must know what you want it for and they're stalling you while they consult with the legal department...

In all seriousness, this does look promising - at least for some basic analysis of raws. I'm tempted to contact them as well, just to play with the thing for a while and see what it's capable of.

 

[Johnson513]

They must know what you want it for and they're stalling you while they consult with the legal department...

In all seriousness, this does look promising - at least for some basic analysis of raws. I'm tempted to contact them as well, just to play with the thing for a while and see what it's capable of.

Shit man! Thanks for reminding me... They just sent me a response FINALLY today... This is a copy paste...

Thank you for your interesting question!
SCiO works by detecting materials of a concentration of 1% or higher (it can detect lower ones under specific circumstances). So as long as the material is of high enough a concentration, developing an application such as the one you describd should be feasible.
That being said, you have to take into consideration that SCiO can only recognize materials that are in our Database. Even if some of the compounds in the liquid are in the database, since the liquid as a whole is not, the materials still would not be detected.
You can broaden the database yourself, by measuring different liquids with different concentrations of AAS or any other material. With the help of your database, you should be able to eventually develop your application (again, keep in mind this is not certain and depends on the liquids spectrum and the different concentrations.). This can be done using our Developers Kit, and no knowledge in programming is necessary.

Please let us know if you have any additional questions!


Not the answer I wanted... I think the developers kit it a Gee....

 

[whwlives]

Not an exact solution to your needs, but for a qualitative test you can extract the AAS out of the oils and analyze the residue.

 

[pumpingiron22]

I posted a while back a similar item. But it was a mini spectrometry they are making way for smaller portable version but the price are still high.

 

[whwlives]

Please repost or PM that info.

.... and thanks!!

I posted a while back a similar item. But it was a mini spectrometry they are making way for smaller portable version but the price are still high.

 

[pumpingiron22]

I look in the archives I made a thread a year ago.