Second cycle with tren ace, test prop and dianabol, needs help!

[TommyVerce]

Hi guys

I'm going to do a 2nd cycle soon and I need help with how to run it, what dosages, pct, etc. BTW, I'm new in this forum so if I'm breaking any posting rules forgive me So, I'm 5''10 and 178 pounds at around 10%.

I've got 20 ml of tren ace at 100mg/ml, 20ml of test prop at 100mg/ml, 100 tabs of Dbol at 10 mg each. I also have 5 ml of sus 300 and 5 ml of deca 250 from my first cycle. I don't really need to use the leftovers of sus and deca but I think I will need to buy some more gear.

And I wanna bulk up! I'm thinking for like 12 weeks. Any ideas or help highly appreciated!

 

[stang4u2nv]

Do some research then ask again.

 

[TommyVerce]

I didn't say anything about my research. I got it mostly from this site. I was thinking about running 350mg tren a week injected ed, test prop 350-600mg and dianabol 20-50 mg a day. I'm not sure about the dosages and pct.

 

[stang4u2nv]

Exactly

 

[TommyVerce]

Well that's a lot of help I got. I've done my research already but I'm still not sure how to run it properly so I'm asking on the forum. You bothered to post 2 useless replies, you also could've posted only one with some help.

 

[boxcar]

I agree with the above said.

We are not here to hold your hand and show you how to run a cycle.

HOWEVER

If you posted a cycle and actually put in your own work to try and put it together, than members will be happy to change some things or give suggestions.
But you posted what you have and expect us to custom make a cycle for you and how to do pct.

 

[TommyVerce]

I've put in a lot of work in researching steroids. But I'm so confused that all I know is the compounds I want to run and for how long. Anyway, I understand that this is too much to ask for. Would you be ably to kindly direct me to some beginners forum or beginners section of this forum or is it still too much?

 

[boxcar]

I've put in a lot of work in researching steroids. But I'm so confused that all I know is the compounds I want to run and for how long. Anyway, I understand that this is too much to ask for. Would you be ably to kindly direct me to some beginners forum or beginners section of this forum or is it still too much?

I am not trying to be dick at all man, and of course. Welcome to the forum. I am super nice compared to some people on here. But everyone here is upfront and real. If you're a dumbass, you will know it.

Anyway man.

You are trying to slide in a cycle without all that is needed. Is money an issue? If it is, just hold off until you can get more of the compounds you are wanting to run.

You could do a blast cycle of tren and test prop. But it would be a very short blast.

Get more tren and test and than set up a cycle. Run tren for around 6-8 weeks for a blast as well as the test ace.
Get two more bottles of each. (I'm also not really doing the math or numbers, but you get what I'm saying)

 

[brutus79]

I would never give any advice to someone who didn't mention serms or ai's... ever heard of pct?

 

[TommyVerce]

I am not trying to be dick at all man, and of course. Welcome to the forum. I am super nice compared to some people on here. But everyone here is upfront and real. If you're a dumbass, you will know it.

Anyway man.

You are trying to slide in a cycle without all that is needed. Is money an issue? If it is, just hold off until you can get more of the compounds you are wanting to run.

You could do a blast cycle of tren and test prop. But it would be a very short blast.

Get more tren and test and than set up a cycle. Run tren for around 6-8 weeks for a blast as well as the test ace.
Get two more bottles of each. (I'm also not really doing the math or numbers, but you get what I'm saying)

I've never said that anyone's a dick over here, all I needed was a little help.
I've had an opportunity to buy some gear at a good price but didn't know that prop and tren come at such low mg/ml dosages. If I knew I would've bought some more. I think I already mentioned in my first post that I think I will need to buy some more gear. You said 2 more bottles of each from my calculations it was around 46 ml of each for the whole cycle, sorry didn't mention it. I asked about PCT, first of all I don't know how to get the accurate dosages for my size and the fact that is gonna be my second cycle. So I can't calculate how much nolva or hcg should I take to protect myself from Gyno and shrunk nuts, if I get them. I've never taken orals before so here comes the Dbol, I know that it shouldn't be run for longer than 6 weeks but what dosages for beginner? That's one of the questions I wanted to ask too. I know that tren and dbol complement each other nicely, and I wanted test prop as a base for the whole thing.

Also I didn't mention serms or ai's properly because I don't know what dosages of aforementioned steroids should I run so I'm not sure if I should think about any ai's since tren doesn't convert into estrogen so it's just prop and dbol but if someone prescribed me low dosages then i wouldn't need no ai's.

 

[hotdog23]

Poor guy. Ok, if it were me? I would pin 5ml sust and 5ml deca on day 1

And start dbol 30mg day for 4 weeks

At the end of that 4 weeks I would start prop and tren @ 350mg/week each til you run out (5-6 weeks) 3 days after last pin I would start pct

Nolva 20/20/20/20
Clomid 50/50/50/50

Pharm grade!!!

Also I would run hcg from week 2 all the way into the first week of pct @ 250iu 2-3x per week

You will need to figure out estro control. Maybe adex .25 eod depending on high/low estro symptoms (get pharm grade ancillaries, always)

Also I would try and bulk on the first 4 weeks, then cut/recomp on the last 6....

But if you wanna buy more gear then u could do it totally different.

 

[stang4u2nv]

I could have but then you wouldnt learn anything through self accomplishment. So read up l. Present us a plan then we will see.

 

[TommyVerce]

Poor guy. Ok, if it were me? I would pin 5ml sust and 5ml deca on day 1

And start dbol 30mg day for 4 weeks

At the end of that 4 weeks I would start prop and tren @ 350mg/week each til you run out (5-6 weeks) 3 days after last pin I would start pct

Nolva 20/20/20/20
Clomid 50/50/50/50

Pharm grade!!!

Also I would run hcg from week 2 all the way into the first week of pct @ 250iu 2-3x per week

You will need to figure out estro control. Maybe adex .25 eod depending on high/low estro symptoms (get pharm grade ancillaries, always)

Also I would try and bulk on the first 4 weeks, then cut/recomp on the last 6....

But if you wanna buy more gear then u could do it totally different.

Thanks a lot hotdog23.

How about this.

Weeks 1-12 350 mg test prop and tren ace
Weeks 1-4 30 mg Dbol (or run it for longer?)
Weeks 2-12 HCG 250iu 2-3x per week
3 days after last pin PCT
4 weeks of Nolva 20 mg a day
4 weeks of Clomid 50 mg a day
Amiridex 0.25 mg eod throughout cycle till PCT starts

Does it make any sense to you steroid wizards??? Oh yeah, that's for bulking.

 

[stang4u2nv]

@TommyVerce much better presentation and cycle, well done. Now for adjustments. Increase nolva to 40mg for two weeks while on pct and taper down to 20mg then 10mg. The idea is to slowly remove the drugs from your system, aiding in estrogen rebound. 2nd i would not use arimedex during the cycle unless you start to see gyno symptoms why? Well depending on your response to arimidex you may crash your estrogen as you are not really using a lot of test to begin with and trenbolone does not aromatize. But use it at your own discression. On the trenbolone note, it is known it kicks up your metabolism so it will be a little bit harder to gain weight because it is a great recomping and cutting compound. Of course it will depend on your diet. Test prop is great but between the tren ed or eod and the prop you will run out of places to pin and it will be annoying as fuck. Usually longer esters low dose and higher tren will help lean down and grow but grow cleaner and let the tren guide you as it is 5 times stronger than testosterone. Questions?

 

[TommyVerce]

Thanks a lot stang4u2nv. I'm a quick learner. All right then, I can dump test prop cos it's cheap anyway or just sell it off to someone. How about then test enanthate at 600mg a week and 350mg of tren and still don't know about Dbol. I'm so confused right now. I just wanna bulk up and also been thinking about Test, Boldenone and Dbol....

 

[hotdog23]

Keep the prop. Keep the adex but adjust the dosage.

High estrogen causes a host of health issues in men, and will lead to excessive fat gain. It is relatively hard to crash estro with adex IMO

If you change the ester of test it will effect pct start time. IMO stick to prop and make it an 8 week cycle

 

[Manny]

Thanks a lot hotdog23.

How about this.

Weeks 1-12 350 mg test prop and tren ace
Weeks 1-4 30 mg Dbol (or run it for longer?)
Weeks 2-12 HCG 250iu 2-3x per week
3 days after last pin PCT
4 weeks of Nolva 20 mg a day
4 weeks of Clomid 50 mg a day
Amiridex 0.25 mg eod throughout cycle till PCT starts

Does it make any sense to you steroid wizards??? Oh yeah, that's for bulking.

I would see if you can handle higher tren. I loved the almost daily noticeable size and strength gains. The last few weeks of my tren run I was up around 850 to 900 mills of tren amd the gains were and are fucking undeniably awesome!!

 

[tileguy123]

I would see if you can handle higher tren. I loved the almost daily noticeable size and strength gains. The last few weeks of my tren run I was up around 850 to 900 mills of tren amd the gains were and are fucking undeniably awesome!!

God damn son a gram of tren phew .. Manny what was ur test dose along that ?

 

[Manny]

Around 550 to 6 cpy @tileguy123. It was a sweaty fucking mess but totally rad at the end. I was def ready to be off when I was.

 

[tileguy123]

600 tcyp ew ?