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Hmmm
Pharma is allowed up to 4%. This is also made different than generics.Hmmm
So
Pharma seros… tested worse than generics in certain dimers
Says they are 6ml per vial yet its short… hmmm
Kept at room temperature for how long? just curious! Thanks for testing itkept at room temperature.
Just wanted to test this for data collection
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That's how it's stored based off the manufacturerKept at room temperature for how long? just curious! Thanks for testing it
Based on the lot number it's a very recent batch.Kept at room temperature for how long? just curious! Thanks for testing it
Every pharma product has an underdose/overdose % allowed by pharmacopeia.Hmmm
So
Pharma seros… tested worse than generics in certain dimers
Says they are 6ml per vial yet its short… hmmm
Thanks for testing @Spaceman Spiff. Your report looks very similar to where it tested back in 2021. Except that sample had 0 dimmer but had lower purity.
I think I saw another one around here somewhere for Sero as well...
Sero: 95.2% / 0%
I thought I saw a 98% somewhere here as well.
That's quite a gap in purity.
Thank you for the testing and effort Spaceman.
Pertinent change on the "aggregates" (dimer plus larger oligomers) measurement as of July 2023:There was nothing at that time testing higher and why he sent the sample in. Gh that had always tested at 99% were all the sudden testing at 94%ish. Jano changed his testing method so a serostim was sent in by Opti to see how it would test.
It is my belief/understanding that there have been changes in the detection of dimer at @janoshik so it may be worth discussing what the new 'standard' is. I have carved through a number of vendors' threads looking for HGH test results from April onwards and can't find any, which seems odd. I suspect that people are unsure of what to make of the new dimer results and are apprehensive to post about it. Here are my two most recent batches that have both tested positive for very small amounts of dimer:
https://janoshik.com/tests/30587-3vial_pull_L4AYT3NA6DQH (0.666%)...
Pertinent change on the "aggregates" (dimer plus larger oligomers) measurement as of July 2023:
It is my belief/understanding that there have been changes in the detection of dimer at @janoshik so it may be worth discussing what the new 'standard' is. I have carved through a number of vendors' threads looking for HGH test results from April onwards and can't find any, which seems odd. I suspect that people are unsure of what to make of the new dimer results and are apprehensive to post about it. Here are my two most recent batches that have both tested positive for very small amounts of dimer:
https://janoshik.com/tests/30587-3vial_pull_L4AYT3NA6DQH (0.666%)...
Thanks for additional comments and history. Also wanted to clarify it's not just "dimer" that Jano reports but getting people to change their nomenclature will be uphill battle at this point.This came a bit later. First back around 2021 Jano changed his method of testing and it only affected gh purity testing. Then later we started seeing dimmer on gh that had tested for years with 0.
I recall it very clearly as the gh I’ve been using for years always tested at 99% with 0 dimmer. Then all the sudden the purity was lower and so was everyone’s and knowone knew what was good and what wasn’t so a serostim was sent in. Then later we started seeing dimmer on products that had never had any. This is all still widely discussed today.
Good job on researching. Not many give a shit here nowadays