Shills

mghoward74

Well-known Member
10+ Year Member
There're a wealth of information on meso. Information ranging from training to PED usage. Theirs alot of good people here who are willing to help those who are not so experience.

The most recent problem that seems to be reoccurring, is the influx of shilsl that frequent the board. Most of theses shills start of as your regular everday person who's looking for help. These shills get some knowledge on how to train decently and how to incorporate aas, gh, maybe insulin, into their training.

The problem arises when member don't read the threads on others experience when dealing with ugls. They'll take unnecessary risk on purchasing gear, hoping not to be the next victim.

Here's where the "S%#& hit the fan..

Member now has negative experience with prior ugl. They're now looking for a new source. Once they find one they deemed gtg the process goes like this

1.) Members complain to sources that their current/former source is no longer good to go. They're in a bind a need PED quickly for a meet or a show

2.) Source sends out gear snd remains in contact with member making transaction as friendly as possible. Buyer believes hes becoming friends with sources behind close doors and decides to purchase more aas for him and his buddies.

3.) Source thinks he's got a possible fish! (This is what they're actually thinking.) If you don't like the term fish, you can use shill or rep.

4.) Source says rep me and I'll give you a discount or if member use your name as a referral, I'll give you a free bottle of Test C or such.

5.) Member says "Yep, I can do that"

6.) Member now decided on how to use his influence to take advantage of unsuspecting members. It may occur through pm, a fake steroid cycle log, or blatant thread introducing a new source to the board and openly repping them. Some shills will cleverly plant positive experience through a sourcres threads or try to de escalate disputes between source and members.

I like to refer to the above as the 6 steps.

"Why you shouldn't accept free gear" is a thread that everyone should refer to.

If you believe you have discoverd shill, mention their name here so we can keep a list going.


Respectfully
 
Fake reviewer.

[quote uid=84939 name="Geterdun" post=1664776]I sure as hell hope your not calling me a troll! As I have stated many times, my gear is good, but once again, their customer service is aweful to say the least! I ordered from both Darius and Frank, with issues! You keep trying to skirt the issues of customer service, stock at the EU Warehouse and lack of communication! As a Shill, you probably get great service, but as a customer, there are issues! There are many more members bitching than just 3. Stop posting about their gear quality and start explaining what your doing to help customer service. Your a Shill, you should be on top of that shit![/QUOTE]<br />How many times have you used Pharmacom gear since you said on your Evo log June 17 entry that you've never used them?
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<br /><br />Yea. You're a fraud. <br /><br />
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<br /><br />Sarms1 gains. FRAUD!
 
I agree with the essence of this thread. The only thing that concerns me is this:

If you believe you have discoverd shill, mention their name here so we can keep a list going.

Meso is one of the best evidence based forums there is that I'm aware of. Simply believing you have encountered a shill isn't enough, having proof is what's needed. Otherwise, we are creating witch hunts and pointing fingers.

One of the primary purposes of this forum is to review sources. There are a lot of members that walk on eggshells here though for fear of reviewing a source and being accused of being a shill. The more it happens, the less likely this board will be used for it's intended purpose and the more likely new members won't want to join. If that trend continues, will the board be sustainable?

Just my thoughts. I do appreciate the motives behind creating the thread though, @mghoward74 because I think shills are still an issue.
 
2.) Source sends out gear snd remains in contact with member making transaction as friendly as possible. Buyer believes hes becoming friends with sources behind close doors and decides to purchase more aas for him and his buddies.

I've said this again and again. Members have a good transaction and think they're friends with a UGL.

All of the sudden they're talking up the source, answering questions when the source isn't around, and bashing anyone who says anything negative about the source.

These people don't realize these UGL's don't care about them. They're just another mark. And when shit goes bad the source will disappear and they'll be left here looking stupid.
 
Source says rep me and I'll give you a discount or if member use your name as a referral, I'll give you a free bottle of Test C or such.
Fake reviewer.

[quote uid=84939 name="Geterdun" post=1664776]I sure as hell hope your not calling me a troll! As I have stated many times, my gear is good, but once again, their customer service is aweful to say the least! I ordered from both Darius and Frank, with issues! You keep trying to skirt the issues of customer service, stock at the EU Warehouse and lack of communication! As a Shill, you probably get great service, but as a customer, there are issues! There are many more members bitching than just 3. Stop posting about their gear quality and start explaining what your doing to help customer service. Your a Shill, you should be on top of that shit!
<br />How many times have you used Pharmacom gear since you said on your Evo log June 17 entry that you've never used them?
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<br /><br />Yea. You're a fraud. <br /><br />
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<br /><br />Sarms1 gains. FRAUD![/QUOTE]

He is calling you a shill and a troll. I agree you stupid fucking cunt. Get the fuck off meso. Evo is more your style.
 
<br />How many times have you used Pharmacom gear since you said on your Evo log June 17 entry that you've never used them?
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811e18d99bb187e93866b2abe6825a2c.jpg
<br /><br />Yea. You're a fraud. <br /><br />
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9ef1876da12904f8372c9f6b4c99eb7b.jpg
<br /><br />Sarms1 gains. FRAUD!

He is calling you a shill and a troll. I agree you stupid fucking cunt. Get the fuck off meso. Evo is more your style.[/QUOTE]
Lol. That's not me moron. That's one of the fake reviewers. Pay attention.
 
He is calling you a shill and a troll. I agree you stupid fucking cunt. Get the fuck off meso. Evo is more your style.
Lol. That's not me moron. That's one of the fake reviewers. Pay attention.[/QUOTE]
Don't think it makes a difference to paul if the example he used was someone else. He's seen enough of you around lately to draw his conclusion.
Not sure what all those posts from other boards are all about or who they are?
 
You have been a smart ass since you landed. Don't stop, keep a flying onto somewhere your bullshit is welcome, wherever the fuck that is, I don't know, but good luck.. I'm doing you a favor so you don't waste your time here and can better yourself somewhere else before you shoot for the big leagues, and we don't have to read your worthless shilling and trolling ramblings. We have enough dick riders here.

Fucker if you have bloods post. Otherwise STFU! You don't know shit about what you are speaking. God forbid you become a WKM and noobs actually listen to the shit that rolls off you tongue.
 
Lol. That's not me moron. That's one of the fake reviewers. Pay attention.
Don't think it makes a difference to paul if the example he used was someone else. He's seen enough of you around lately to draw his conclusion.
Not sure what all those posts from other boards are all about or who they are?[/QUOTE]
Thats your boy Geterdun. Are you blind or in denial? Keep backing fake reviews Ben...
 
Lol. That's not me moron. That's one of the fake reviewers. Pay attention.
Don't think it makes a difference to paul if the example he used was someone else. He's seen enough of you around lately to draw his conclusion.
Not sure what all those posts from other boards are all about or who they are?[/QUOTE]
Thank you Ben. You are a scholar and a gentleman, unlike this ignorant fuck. :)
 
@Eman

I should have said if you "believe and can prove"

Boxcar himself has proclaimed he is a shill for marvel labs. You can find his thread here on meso
 
Don't think it makes a difference to paul if the example he used was someone else. He's seen enough of you around lately to draw his conclusion.
Not sure what all those posts from other boards are all about or who they are?
Thats your boy Geterdun. Are you blind or in denial? Keep backing fake reviews Ben...[/QUOTE]
If you're saying Geterdun has posted fake reviews here at meso I'll take a look and see. I havent been following his posts closely but i dont remember seeing him posting reviews anout Pharmacom?
Ive seen him post about the current state of affairs as a whole with pcom. Ive been doing the same.
If you're talking about posts at evo i haven't the inclination or ability to log on and review posts. I'm banned there and if i joined under a different handle I'd be banned within an hour as i lose my temper at that shithole very quickly.
 
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]I sure as hell hope your not calling me a troll!
I'm calling you a troll. I didn't know about the shilling before. I do now. WTF are you doing here? Suck dick on another board where dick suckers are welcome. They may even make you a mod if you have the necessary skill set.
 
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I'm calling you a troll. I didn't know about the shilling before. I do now. WTF are you doing here? Suck dick on another board where dick suckers are welcome. They may even make you a mod if you have the necessary skill set.


I never wrote that. No idea who you quoted there. Try again.
 
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