Sleep issues

I also read the studies. It helps about 40% of people who take it. There are a few similar drugs but that’s the only one PCT Zone has.

This is something that you can legit talk with your doctor about. Not something you have to keep a secret from them. If you don't have health insurance, that's different.

Do people even see doctors anymore? or is that just for emergencies when DIY anon online bros and dope dealers can't help
 
This is something that you can legit talk with your doctor about. Not something you have to keep a secret from them. If you don't have health insurance, that's different.

Do people even see doctors anymore? or is that just for emergencies when DIY anon online bros and dope dealers can't help
I wasn’t looking for me. Well, at one time I was. But I realized a medication I was taking was causing me to get up to pee 3-4 times a night. But 1-2 times a night is my norm and doesn’t impact my quantity of sleep time.
 
This is something that you can legit talk with your doctor about. Not something you have to keep a secret from them. If you don't have health insurance, that's different.

Do people even see doctors anymore? or is that just for emergencies when DIY anon online bros and dope dealers can't help
Looking at my peer group of people in their mid-late 20s... All the women have doctors they go to regularly and most of the men are full YOLO and won't see a doctor until they wake up in the ER. This is in Canada too so not like cost or insurance is a relevant factor.

I have a doctor that I go to if there's a physical issue like an ear infection. For literally anything else I use a telemedicine service. But even then that's after I have already decided what medication I want. So not too different from ordering things from China/India tbh.

You guys will do anything other than basic sleep hygiene! (or lie that you've tried it a million times, cuz that's not how it works)

Use ChatGPT to get an explainer on cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia (CBT-i).

It's not just for insomnia, but for many things related to sleep quality.

You're gonna spend so much time training and focusing on diet. Sleep is part of the lifestyle too.
You're not wrong. But damn dude. Sleep deprivation is fucking torture. I had great sleep for like 2.5 weeks (>= 8 hours/night, >= 90 min REM/night) for the first time in months and then fucked it up simply by not getting of the damn phone (yes I know that's retarded).

It feels like I'm back to square one in the past few days. I was starting to feel my energy coming back and now I'm back to being completely depleted I hate it. I know the answer is to toughen up but it's already hard to show up to work and the gym and so on.

I take eszopiclone 2-3 mg/night in the hope that it gives me a higher chance of stopping the bleeding and hopefully getting back on my feet. It's a bad cycle. I know I should do sleep restriction therapy and start a CBT-I course or therapy... I'm tired boss.

Im Tired Tom Hanks GIF
 
Looking at my peer group of people in their mid-late 20s... All the women have doctors they go to regularly and most of the men are full YOLO and won't see a doctor until they wake up in the ER. This is in Canada too so not like cost or insurance is a relevant factor.

I have a doctor that I go to if there's a physical issue like an ear infection. For literally anything else I use a telemedicine service. But even then that's after I have already decided what medication I want. So not too different from ordering things from China/India tbh.


You're not wrong. But damn dude. Sleep deprivation is fucking torture. I had great sleep for like 2.5 weeks (>= 8 hours/night, >= 90 min REM/night) for the first time in months and then fucked it up simply by not getting of the damn phone (yes I know that's retarded).

It feels like I'm back to square one in the past few days. I was starting to feel my energy coming back and now I'm back to being completely depleted I hate it. I know the answer is to toughen up but it's already hard to show up to work and the gym and so on.

I take eszopiclone 2-3 mg/night in the hope that it gives me a higher chance of stopping the bleeding and hopefully getting back on my feet. It's a bad cycle. I know I should do sleep restriction therapy and start a CBT-I course or therapy... I'm tired boss.

Im Tired Tom Hanks GIF

Getting off the computer and smart phone a few hours before bed is low hanging fruit (basic sleep hygiene). Both physiologically (less blue light) and helps train your brain that bed time is coming. Time to relax.

Definitely dim lighting. If you don't have any mindless chores (like folding clothes or putting away clean dishes), watch TV under dim lights with blue blockers.

Your bed is for sleeping and good sex. Not doom scrolling on a smart phone.

These are some of the things covered by sleep hygiene (and CBT-i). It's not complicated.
 
hygiene can help 100000%... for folks with adhd though its really a mixed bag... like messy houses actually calm them down which is weird, and need stimulation to go to sleep ie listen watch etc. like how many ADHD people take stimulants like Ritalin BEFORE bed to sleep...

I agree sleep hygiene along with food(at least for me was big one, tiny or big snack at night Fs sleep up most times I do it). certainly cant hurt and is not something that happens in 1 week. 2-3 months.
 
Also to add here with Blood Pressure. For me it was the main reason why i couldnt sleep well, despite a lot of Cardio my resting heartrate never goes below 78-80. With 5mg Nebivol before bed daily my Heartrate is around 68-70 (BP: 115/56 AVG.) and i sleep like a baby. Nebi also makes me tired so thats why i take it in the evening.

That plus Taurin and 1h before sleep no water, some magnesium and its a really good sleep.

I also discovered lately that my sleep quality according to my oura ring went up by 4% after taking 10mg anavar daily for the past 4 days to break a plateu in the gym (will discontinue it in a few days)
 
This is something that you can legit talk with your doctor about. Not something you have to keep a secret from them. If you don't have health insurance, that's different.

Do people even see doctors anymore? or is that just for emergencies when DIY anon online bros and dope dealers can't help
As far as Cialis goes, if you have a VA doc, you will have to fight to get a script for daily use. They are only allowed to prescribe 6 20mg pills per month, which is almost useless for tadalafil. This can be changed but they are very resistant and will try to give an alternative like finesta, dutasta, etc. which again is a totally different animal.
 

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As far as Cialis goes, if you have a VA doc, you will have to fight to get a script for daily use. They are only allowed to prescribe 6 20mg pills per month, which is almost useless for tadalafil. This can be changed but they are very resistant and will try to give an alternative like finesta, dutasta, etc. which again is a totally different animal.

Those are limits for erectile dysfunction.

For BPH they can prescribe 2.5 or 5 mg daily, 90 tablets at a time,

"Sometimes my urine stream is weak. I've heard that la related to the prostate and daily cialis can help with that."
 
Those are limits for erectile dysfunction.

For BPH they can prescribe 2.5 or 5 mg daily, 90 tablets at a time,

"Sometimes my urine stream is weak. I've heard that la related to the prostate and daily cialis can help with that."
This is true but... the problem is 99% of the time, the doc will write it for ED not BPH and when you bitch about running out, they'll say "that's the rules, nothing I can do". I have first hand experience with this. The VA in general is not big on anything TRT or ED related issues, they generally dismiss and tell you to "live with it". They treat with the "bare minimum".
 
This is true but... the problem is 99% of the time, the doc will write it for ED not BPH and when you bitch about running out, they'll say "that's the rules, nothing I can do". I have first hand experience with this. The VA in general is not big on anything TRT or ED related issues, they generally dismiss and tell you to "live with it". They treat with the "bare minimum".

Believe me, even when a private doc prescribes a decent amount, insurance won't. cover it. Often a 10 tab limit a month.

That's why it's easier to use GoodRx Care for a $20 telehealth appointment, ask for a 90 day prescrip, and fill it through GoodRx for $20-$30.
 
Believe me, even when a private doc prescribes a decent amount, insurance won't. cover it. Often a 10 tab limit a month.

That's why it's easier to use GoodRx Care for a $20 telehealth appointment, ask for a 90 day prescrip, and fill it through GoodRx for $20-$30.
Right, that is why in my introduction post, I was asked if a doc was involved and I said no, although I did get the VA to fill cialis @ 5mg daily 90 day renewable script. It was not without an argument.
 
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