Some Serious First Cycle Problems.. Fake Anavar?

freshoutaluck

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Hey everyone so this is my first post here but I found a lot of useful cycle information lurking around over the last few months and I could use some real help from experienced people as I really have no one to go to but some young friends that are very confused to begin with. So I'll get started by first saying I've researched steroids quite intensively before my first cycle and I hope I can avoid some judgement here as I've done everything in my power to set up the safest first cycle.

Essentially my 10 week cycle is
Testosterone enenthate 500mg weeks 1-10
Anavar 60mg per day starting week 4-10
Arimadex 0.5mg per day weeks 1-10

I'm currently on week 7 as of today and I'm extremely sick. Starting my first week of Anavar I noticed pretty much nothing at all which I heard can be normal and the test didn't really start kicking in for about 3 weeks. The scale doesn't lie so despite that I honestly don't feel like I'm on anything but I've somehow gained 16lbs already. The only real side effects were painful shoulder pumps, knee pain which seemed heightened from before cycle and eventually went away, feeling tired most the time and all around pretty shitty, even my pumps felt pretty normal. Honestly without the mad weight gains and the fact my balls went from acorns to raisins I'd swear I was pinning olive oil. I also had an absolutely insane libido boost which fell off completely after starting Anavar.

So around week 5 I started to feel a bit of a flu come on and long story short it actually put me in the hospital because it went from a painful throat infection to an even worse ear infection. I got some antibiotics and I powered through most days at the gym hopped up on painkillers (took ibuprofen since its filtered through the kidneys) I even forced down shit food just to get in the calories although some days it just wasn't possible and after finishing day 10 of antibiotics which I really didn't want to take I felt alright again. I was convinced I had lost about 5 pounds in water and just the lack of food or solid workouts and as I stepped on the scale my eyes lit up when I saw I had actually GAINED 5 LBS.

Okay bear with me here is where shit gets worse, a few days after the antibiotics were finished I could feel something in my throat again, so I was doing everything in my power naturally to avoid it and funny enough before this cycle I hadn't been sick in over a year. Then 3 days ago I went from feeling a bit feverish to another extremely painful throat infection or maybe even strep. I was really trying to power through this time and I didn't want to take even more antibiotics although I'm pretty sure this ones viral so it wouldn't help anyway. I kept going to the gym and funny enough yesterday despite feeling horrible I had such an amazing workout when I stepped in the gym even settling a flat bench PR of 245 for 6, which is 20 pounds more then I've ever attempted. I even was repping 225 way easier then before I got sick. So maybe this is the Anavar kicking in?

When I was done I headed to a girls res and after we had finished waking up the entire block I got hit with some insane shivers. I had this earlier in the day and it would go from profusely sweating like I'm talking completely drenched to these insane shivers. It was so bad she had me wrapped up in 50 blanks and I was still shivering like crazy. Today I've felt pretty much the same if not worse and I haven't had the cold part much but I've been sweating more then an entire basketball team in Mexico wearing 50 layers. So here I am in bed at night feeling utterly defeated, no matter how hard I try to power through I must say I've been having a real shit time. I've continued all my dosages as I refuse to give up so far along but I can't help but feel something about this Anavar is iffy. Now these steroids seemed sketchy from the get go, from an UGL that no ones seemed to of heard about, I do live in a small town so I'm pretty sure it's what most people use here and my long term friend whose an absolute monster at 22 vouches for them, and to a certain extent I do trust him. As you can probably tell some encouragement or advice would be an absolute blessing right now, I have two main guesses which would be that my immune system was shot and I just managed to catch everything or this Anavar is more than likely another substance entirely. Honestly if I wasn't sick I'd swear it was tren from this insane sweating but I know this is an injeftable, the sides do not seem on par with winny besides joint pain so I really don't know what it could be. I woke up to ask this and my bed is literally drenched, I've never had anything like this with normal colds.

Thanks for all the help I really appreciate it, maybe if I can get my way through this I can give you guys the extremely detailed cycle notes I was taking with calorie and macro weekly averages, weekly mood and noticeable sides and weekly weigh ins. Which of course got a little messed up with these infections but I'd love to throw together a little transformation on here when I'm all down

TL;DR : I'm on my first cycle and I've suddenly gotten extremely sick after starting oral Anavar and I need help!
 
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Wouldn't common sense say to drop the var then?.. If ur gaining weight at that rate its probably dbol or drol

I guess so, it cost a lot though and since these are actual infections they can't possible be because of the Anavar right? Unless it had something to do with suppressing my immune system. I mean I'm pretty convinced it's not Anavar but I really don't know why I've been so unlucky.
 
First cycle should always be test only dude for just this reason.. If u add more than one compound and u get sick how will u know which of them is causing a issue.. I can understand the financial outlay dude but nothing is worth ya health or ruining ya valuable first cycle.. Drop it.. Save it for later bro
 
First cycle should always be test only dude for just this reason.. If u add more than one compound and u get sick how will u know which of them is causing a issue.. I can understand the financial outlay dude but nothing is worth ya health or ruining ya valuable first cycle.. Drop it.. Save it for later bro

Yeah very true but if it's from the gear at all it's definitely the "var". You're probably right it's just tough for me to do. If things don't clear up soon I'll definitely drop. Also I should have probably mentioned I have very little water retention so I don't think it's dbol.
 
Ur running 0.5mg adex a day bro so at that dose ya unlikely to hold much water.. The adex may be a factor.. Did u get pre cycle bloods bro?

Yeah those came back healthy, I should probably get some new bloods done during my cycle but gotta drag my dying ass out of bed to do it.
 
I'll tell you that my last shot three days later I got sick with fever and chills and couldn't eat.. A lot of people were getting sick in my area so did my stepson and youngest daughter .. There's lasted a couple of days .. I guess it's cause they got the flu shot..
 
Sounds like fucked up gear. Honestly no one really knows what is in most ugl gear. I never got sick from test. No one I know has ever got sick from steroids, but just in the last couple years, we have had a lot of guys injured from fucked up product. All the pip and test flu is bs.
 
Sounds like fucked up gear. Honestly no one really knows what is in most ugl gear. I never got sick from test. No one I know has ever got sick from steroids, but just in the last couple years, we have had a lot of guys injured from fucked up product. All the pip and test flu is bs.

Hmm interesting, next cycle I'm absolutely going to find safer and better known product regardless of cost, this stuff was not only overpriced it is also extremely sketchy. It does make sense there could be some interaction with immune system function but I can't see how properly dosed and made products could cause any type of flu or virus. I think I was just really unlucky with flu season so hopefully I can finish this cycle and make some real gains.
 
Well it's now Monday and I'm feeling loads better, still haven't stopped the orals but hopefully this was all just some bad luck and I can work on getting healthy!
 
my first thought when reading your post was that that is a shitload of adex for a first cycle. Its quite possible you crashed your estro from the get go and have been trying to operate on zero estro the entire cycle and it is fucking you up. that is a dose a mid/heavy aromatiser would be using especially only 500/wk test. It is quite possible that you might not even have ever needed the adex at all. The only solid advice here is to get bloods.
 
my first thought when reading your post was that that is a shitload of adex for a first cycle. Its quite possible you crashed your estro from the get go and have been trying to operate on zero estro the entire cycle and it is fucking you up. that is a dose a mid/heavy aromatiser would be using especially only 500/wk test. It is quite possible that you might not even have ever needed the adex at all. The only solid advice here is to get bloods.

That's interesting I didn't know 0.5mg EOD was a lot since I'd heard people using up to 1g ED, I guess I just wanted to avoid gyno from the start because I've always had puffier nipples even at low body fat. Maybe I could try dosing it to just 0.25mg or something?
 
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