Starting my first HGH in a Cycle

[Lean_N_Mean]

I’ve been on a few cycles in my life and I’m 36yrs old, 6’2”, 200lbs.. For the last 3-1/2 yrs I’ve been on straight TRT. I’ve ordered everything for a new cycle and decided instead of sticking with just Test or just Test E and Tren-A(sometimes add Anavar), I’d add some more to my stack. This will be the first time I’ve ever taken or added HGH to any cycle and don’t want the sides since I’m not getting paid to look big and don’t ever plan on getting on stage ever I have just been obsessed with being in shape forever. I am putting my cycle below. Any feedback, positive or negative constructive criticism would be much appreciated. Thanks all!


Started this three weeks ago to run for 16-week cycle FYI-


Currently taking
Test E 300mg 2x weekly
Test P 75mg E.D.
NPP 100mg E.D.
Anavar 70mg E.D.
HCG 3-IU 2x weekly
Anastrozole 1/4 tab - 2x weekly
HGH 6-IU (2-IU 3x Daily)


Starting June 11th
Test E 300mg 2x weekly
Test P 75mg E.D.
NPP 50mg E.D.
Tren 75mg E.D.
Winstrol 50mg E.D
HCG 3-IU 2x weekly
Anastrozole 1/4 tab E.O.D
HGH 6-IU (2-IU 3x Daily)


Starting June 25th Aug 25th
Test E 150mg twice a week
Test P 100mg E.D.
NPP 50mg E.D.
Tren 75mg E.D.
Winstrol 50mg E.D
Masteron 50mg E.D.
HCG 3-IU 2x weekly
Anastrozole 1/4 tab E.O.D
HGH 6-IU (2-IU 3x Daily)


I’ve never been too educated on PCT as I am now so I have Clomid, HCG, and Test Cyp. 250. I also have peptides for the growth post cycle of GHRP-6 and CJC-1295 with Hexerelin.

 

[Eman]

Yikes... Starting at 6iu right away? You may regret that.

Why are you trying to PCT if you are on TRT?

 

[Lean_N_Mean]

Yikes... Starting at 6iu right away? You may regret that.

Why are you trying to PCT if you are on TRT?

Should I not use a pct to keep more of my gains cutting from such a high test dose to like 250 weekly?

As for the growth is 4-IU better to run at? I’ve been doing 2-IU 3x daily. I can cut to AM and about 4pm? The growth im using from Pharmacom is pretty good stuff. I am feeling my fingertips tingle already and some other sides like dry sore wrists which is why I’m keeping a small amount of NPP in my cycle..

 

[Eman]

Should I not use a pct to keep more of my gains cutting from such a high test dose to like 250 weekly?

Let me answer your question with a question: What is the purpose of PCT?

As for the growth is 4-IU better to run at? I’ve been doing 2-IU 3x daily. I can cut to AM and about 4pm? The growth in using from Pharmacom is pretty good stuff. I am feeling my fingertips tingle already and some other sides like dry sore wrists which is why I’m keeping a small amount of NPP in my cycle..

I would definitely consider running it at 4iu to start... 6iu is a lot.

Pharmcom's hgh has not tested well... Side effects are also not a good way to judge purity. Did you get baseline IGF1 blood work?

 

[Lean_N_Mean]

Let me answer your question with a question: What is the purpose of PCT?



I would definitely consider running it at 4iu to start... 6iu is a lot.

Pharmcom's hgh has not tested well... Side effects are also not a good way to judge purity. Did you get baseline IGF1 blood work?

Yes but I don’t go in for my first on cycle bloods till Thursday.. I’ll try running it at 4-IU till I get my bloods back..

 

[Lean_N_Mean]

Let me answer your question with a question: What is the purpose of PCT?



I would definitely consider running it at 4iu to start... 6iu is a lot.

Pharmcom's hgh has not tested well... Side effects are also not a good way to judge purity. Did you get baseline IGF1 blood work?

I’ve seen a few lab tests from Pharmacom and they do vary a bit. Their within range of 10% but ten more in one bottle to ten less in another is 20% variance so I get what you’re saying! Thanks for the recommendation on the dosage too!

 

[Lean_N_Mean]

Let me answer your question with a question: What is the purpose of PCT?



I would definitely consider running it at 4iu to start... 6iu is a lot.

Pharmcom's hgh has not tested well... Side effects are also not a good way to judge purity. Did you get baseline IGF1 blood work?

Another question would be then should I try to split the 4-IU daily into 3 doses a day since it has such a short half life in your system? I’ve always been told and read that if you have the ability to run three doses daily you always should rather than morning and evening doses..

Thoughts?

 

[Eman]

Yes but I don’t go in for my first on cycle bloods till Thursday.. I’ll try running it at 4-IU till I get my bloods back..

They won't be baseline bloods then.

Another question would be then should I try to split the 4-IU daily into 3 doses a day since it has such a short half life in your system? I’ve always been told and read that if you have the ability to run three doses daily you always should rather than morning and evening doses..

Thoughts?

What exactly is your goal with the GH?

 

[Lean_N_Mean]

Looks like I don’t think I’ll need a PCT? just load up on HCG the last week and lower weekly back to TRT dosages according to my TRT Dr. that I just spoke too... I didn’t know that and found it very interesting after hearing how important pct was after a cycle but that’s for people not on TRT and I wasn’t aware..
He said to take a few weeks and lower your test dose from your (unhealthy high cycle dose as he called it) cycle dose to your regular 200mg of test Cyp weekly and weekly dose of 1/4 to 1/2 tab of Anastrozole with 5-IU HCG weekly like my regular TRT fill..
Gotta love having an amazing Dr you can just be up front with and tell him what your running and he’s more worried about helping you run it safely than making money!

 

[Lean_N_Mean]

They won't be baseline bloods then.



What exactly is your goal with the GH?

My goals are to Heal faster, lose fat, gain muscle, and put on more size..

I have never been able to break 210lbs and have only used basic Test only cycles and some with test and with Tren ace on two of the cycles at low doses (too low on the first one I think), and Anavar on the last..

 

[Eman]

My goals are to Heal faster, lose fat, gain muscle, and put on more size.

Your expectations might be set a bit too high.

Also, 5iu of HCG doesn't make sense... Nor does it have any bearing on the period after you bring your dose back down.

If you want to get past 210lbs, you just have to eat more.

 

[Logan44551]

I'm gonna leave this here.
https://thinksteroids.com/articles/most-effective-growth-hormone-protocol-for-hypertrophy/

Also 200mg weekly is quite a bit for trt what does that out your test at?

 

[Lean_N_Mean]

I'm gonna leave this here.
https://thinksteroids.com/articles/most-effective-growth-hormone-protocol-for-hypertrophy/

Also 200mg weekly is quite a bit for trt what does that out your test at?

Dr keeps me at 1250-1300.. depending on my bloods it changes from 170-200... My dr always gives me 5-IUs of HCG too so it’s odd that that seems high to others? I usually take what he gives me and split it into two 2.5-IU shots..

 

[Lean_N_Mean]

Your expectations might be set a bit too high.

Also, 5iu of HCG doesn't make sense... Nor does it have any bearing on the period after you bring your dose back down.

If you want to get past 210lbs, you just have to eat more.

I’ve been eating like a horse with the combo of NPP and Anavar. I’ve heard I won’t see any real size gains on growth until about 12-16 weeks so I plan to run it past my cycle but no longer than about 20-weeks and then just running a small 2-IU shot once a day for vitality purposes. I have felt a lot more mellow and sleep a ton better on it and have more energy as well. If I cut to 4-IU of Growth a day it’s gonna save me money too so I can’t complain about trying it for about a month or two.

What’s the average first time user of HGH have to expect as for noticeable changes on growth?

 

[Lean_N_Mean]

I'm gonna leave this here.
https://thinksteroids.com/articles/most-effective-growth-hormone-protocol-for-hypertrophy/

Also 200mg weekly is quite a bit for trt what does that out your test at?

Thanks for the very informative article! It actually answered about all my questions and think I’m just gonna take my 4-IU daily for fat burning, energy, good night sleep, and mellow feeling it gives me.. thanks again bud!

 

[Eman]

What’s the average first time user of HGH have to expect as for noticeable changes on growth?

It can help with some nagging injuries.

Other than that, it depends on how you're using it. If you're in a deficit and trying to lose fat and retain muscle, you'll see the GH really shine. But, everything else needs to be in place as far as drugs, diet and training.

If you're looking to bulk, it's really the same deal.

But, you can't really expect it all to happen at the same time.

If you go to the website home page, there are a few articles written about using HGH for fat loss and using it for hypertrophy. Definitely check them out.

 

[Logan44551]

Thanks for the very informative article! It actually answered about all my questions and think I’m just gonna take my 4-IU daily for fat burning, energy, good night sleep, and mellow feeling it gives me.. thanks again bud!

No worries there is a couple articles on HGH, both are very informative

 

[Eman]

Dr keeps me at 1250-1300.. depending on my bloods it changes from 170-200... My dr always gives me 5-IUs of HCG too so it’s odd that that seems high to others? I usually take what he gives me and split it into two 2.5-IU shots..

5iu isn't high... It's nothing. 250-500iu is the norm.

 

[Lean_N_Mean]

It can help with some nagging injuries.

Other than that, it depends on how you're using it. If you're in a deficit and trying to lose fat and retain muscle, you'll see the GH really shine. But, everything else needs to be in place as far as drugs, diet and training.

If you're looking to bulk, it's really the same deal.

But, you can't really expect it all to happen at the same time.

If you go to the website home page, there are a few articles written about using HGH for fat loss and using it for hypertrophy. Definitely check them out.

Thanks bud! I appreciate the info!!!!

 

[Lean_N_Mean]

5iu isn't high... It's nothing. 250-500iu is the norm.

Oh sorry I made that confusing! I meant in increments of 100.. sorry! I’ve been writing in units of one and two with the HGH and misspoke. Sorry for the confusion!!!