steroid chart

[*Bj*]

hey guys I've put together a chart of the main steroids grading them from 1-10 for newbies and 'cause I'm a little bored. This is just my opinion based on experiences and 3 years on this board. Feel free to criticize or offer opinions. Bj


Steroid.......Size & Strength.......Cutting......Side Effects.....Retaining Gains
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Tren..................10....................5..................8....................4 Deca ..................7....................3..................6....................7
Anadrol .............10....................1..................9.....................1
Primo..................4....................10.................5.....................9
Winstrol...............1....................8..................4.....................9
D-bol...................8....................1..................6.....................2
Anavar.................5....................5.................1......................8
Cyp,Sus,Ena..........8....................1.................5......................5
Equipoise...............6...................6..................3.....................9
Masteron...............5...................9..................1.....................10​

 

[SLick]

cant say i agree....

I would give the tren a higher cutting rating although this is my first cycle with tren....I just dont agree with alot of the chart.....I think dbol gives more size than abombs...maybe not more strength

hey guys I've put together a chart of the main steroids grading them from 1-10 for newbies and 'cause I'm a little bored. This is just my opinion based on experiences and 3 years on this board. Feel free to criticize or offer opinions. Bj


Steroid.......Size & Strength.......Cutting......Side Effects.....Retaining Gains
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Tren..................10....................5..................8....................4 Deca ..................7....................3..................6....................7
Anadrol .............10....................1..................9.....................1
Primo..................4....................10.................5.....................9
Winstrol...............1....................8..................4.....................9
D-bol...................8....................1..................6.....................2
Anavar.................5....................5.................1......................8
Cyp,Sus,Ena..........8....................1.................5......................5
Equipoise...............6...................6..................3.....................9
Masteron...............5...................9..................1.....................10​

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[TheSpectre]

Those are way off here are a few:

1) Overrated tren side effects
2) Winstrol size & strength is far superior to primo, winny should have a 6 or 7
3) Tren is a 9 or 10 for cutting
4) Masteron side effects at least a 5 with the acne and hair problems
5) Masteron is no way a 10 on retaining gains. Primo yes, but not Masteron

 

[SLick]

agreed..

im with spectre...

Those are way off here are a few:

1) Overrated tren side effects
2) Winstrol size & strength is far superior to primo, winny should have a 6 or 7
3) Tren is a 9 or 10 for cutting
4) Masteron side effects at least a 5 with the acne and hair problems
5) Masteron is no way a 10 on retaining gains. Primo yes, but not Masteron

 

[cathex]

Bump. Interesting stuff though. I think there should be more in the way of educational threads and if they are worth there salt, they should be retained as stickies IMO.

 

[KTCKSports]

If these rating are accurate and since Masteron is superior to Primo in both size and side effects, why don't we hear about Masteron usage as a bridge? Anyone have an idea?



Steroid.......Size & Strength.......Cutting......Side Effects.....Retaining Gains
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Tren..................10....................5..................8....................4 Deca ..................7....................3..................6....................7
Anadrol .............10....................1..................9.....................1
Primo..................4....................10.................5.....................9
Winstrol...............1....................8..................4.....................9
D-bol...................8....................1..................6.....................2
Anavar.................5....................5.................1......................8
Cyp,Sus,Ena..........8....................1.................5......................5
Equipoise...............6...................6..................3.....................9
Masteron...............5...................9..................1.....................10[/QUOTE]

 

[mesomember]

If these rating are accurate and since Masteron is superior to Primo in both size and side effects, why don't we hear about Masteron usage as a bridge? Anyone have an idea?



Steroid.......Size & Strength.......Cutting......Side Effects.....Retaining Gains
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Tren..................10....................5..................8....................4 Deca ..................7....................3..................6....................7
Anadrol .............10....................1..................9.....................1
Primo..................4....................10.................5.....................9
Winstrol...............1....................8..................4.....................9
D-bol...................8....................1..................6.....................2
Anavar.................5....................5.................1......................8
Cyp,Sus,Ena..........8....................1.................5......................5
Equipoise...............6...................6..................3.....................9
Masteron...............5...................9..................1.....................10

[/QUOTE]

Heres some others for y'all
http://www.steroidtips.com/steroidrank.htm

http://www.domesticgear.com/steroidranking.htm

 

[*Bj*]

according to those charts I wasnt that far off. Bj

 

[andruw251]

Heres some others for y'all
http://www.steroidtips.com/steroidrank.htm

http://www.domesticgear.com/steroidranking.htm[/QUOTE]


those charts are off to. methytest is not an 8 in cost, its actually rather cheap, there is not that much of a difference in the different esters of test, and there isnt that much of a difference between injectable and oral winny. i actually found test prop and fina gains to be easy to keep, in the ability to keep gains ranking, they gave fina a 4 (which is not too far off), and propionate a 2 (which from my experience is not even close)

 

[paperbolix]

the anavar did a little better on those other charts then on yours..

 

[*Bj*]

i never tried var but my lazy ass ex did so I just based my opinion on her results. Bj

 

[fitbuffed]

I owuld love to see a chart that classifies by 17 AA or not and Type I or Type II.

hey guys I've put together a chart of the main steroids grading them from 1-10 for newbies and 'cause I'm a little bored. This is just my opinion based on experiences and 3 years on this board. Feel free to criticize or offer opinions. Bj


Steroid.......Size & Strength.......Cutting......Side Effects.....Retaining Gains
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Tren..................10....................5..................8....................4 Deca ..................7....................3..................6....................7
Anadrol .............10....................1..................9.....................1
Primo..................4....................10.................5.....................9
Winstrol...............1....................8..................4.....................9
D-bol...................8....................1..................6.....................2
Anavar.................5....................5.................1......................8
Cyp,Sus,Ena..........8....................1.................5......................5
Equipoise...............6...................6..................3.....................9
Masteron...............5...................9..................1.....................10​

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[UVX-Rx]

hey guys I've put together a chart of the main steroids grading them from 1-10 for newbies and 'cause I'm a little bored. This is just my opinion based on experiences and 3 years on this board. Feel free to criticize or offer opinions. Bj


Steroid.......Size & Strength.......Cutting......Side Effects.....Retaining Gains
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Tren..................10....................8.................3....................6 Deca ..................7....................3...................3...................7
Anadrol .............10....................1..................9.....................1
Primo..................4....................10.................2.....................9
Winstrol...............5....................8..................8.....................5
D-bol...................8....................1..................6.....................2
Anavar.................5....................5.................1......................8
Cyp,Sus,Ena..........8....................1.................5......................5
Equipoise...............6...................6..................3.....................9
Masteron...............5...................9..................1.....................3​

I agree with a lot of your chart, but some are way off. Tren is far better for cuttting and has very little sides, also I have found personal experience, the gains are very permamnent due to permanent dow regulation of cortisol receptors.

Deca, IMHO, has no side effects when used at 400-600mg. Some complain of gyno, but i believe that gyno is far more likely with test or in conjunction with test.

Primo has virtually no sides. I guess hairloss could be a concern for those that are prone, but other than that it is harmless.

Winstrol is very effective for strength, but not size. Also, the gains seem to be very fleeting in my opinion. Same can be said for Masteron. These are best utilized as a contest prep or in order to achieve a very lean striated look for a short period of time.​

 

[TestRip7]

I agree with UVX about the winstrol, in my experience size gained is not much if any. Strength went up pretty good for me and side effects were only minor joint stiffness. If you have the option i would never use winstrol during the summer months or when it is hot. This damn near killed me during my summer cutting cycle.

 

[UVX-Rx]

I agree with UVX about the winstrol, in my experience size gained is not much if any. Strength went up pretty good for me and side effects were only minor joint stiffness. If you have the option i would never use winstrol during the summer months or when it is hot. This damn near killed me during my summer cutting cycle.

Also, the reason I upped the side effects for Winstrol is that for those that monitor blood work, you will see drastic deleterious effects on your lipid profiles with Winstrol.

 

[KTCKSports]

Personally Masteron looks like it has one the best ratings around. It ranks high in strength and mass gains and very high in ability to keep gains which I think is a very important category.

What do you stack it with? Is it a subsitute for Tren?

 

[UVX-Rx]

Personally Masteron looks like it has one the best ratings around. It ranks high in strength and mass gains and very high in ability to keep gains which I think is a very important category.

What do you stack it with? Is it a subsitute for Tren?

Have you used Masteron? Those that have will tell you that size and strength are minimal. Its main property that makes it useful is the fact that it is a DHT derivitive and that it has very good anti estrogenic properties. For achiveing a ripped to the bone look their is none better. I personally disagree with the high marks on "ability to keep gains" Once you cease using Masteron, the freaky hardness begins to subside. I am going from personal experience though and not a chart.