Test/Deca/Dbol or Adrol

[Longhornrob]

Ooooooooook. Still finalizing pieces of the plan but I will lay it out as it is now. All feedback, criticism, and even shit-talking is welcome (I get bored at the office sometimes and the shit-talking might lighten the mood). Haha. Anyway, I am 25. I have run a couple cycles that went well. Test E+dbol at the front for 10 week runs. My last run yielded about a 25lb quite lean gain, 20 of which stayed with me well past pct. About two months ago, I was convinced to enter a weightlifting contest and started dropping weight to enter into an agreeable weight class. The meet is this coming Saturday. I am down to 195 from the 220 I was at early this year. Needless to say, I will begin eating like a madman when Sunday rolls around. Goal is to be several pounds back up by the time I start cycle.

The cycle will begin when everything arrives. That could be two weeks from now or one month but should not be longer than that. It will look like:

Test 400 (200enanthate+200test decanoate)
.75ml twice a week for 600 mg test Weeks 1-7

Deca 300 (150mg nandro decanoate, 75mg npp, 75mg nandro undeca)
1ml twice a week for 600mg deca Weeks 1-7

Dbol or Anadrol
50mg/day
10wake, 30 lunch/preworkout, 10 night
Weeks 1-4

Test Prop 100
1ml daily with Sundays off
Weeks 8-10

NPP 100
1ml daily with Sundays off
Weeks 8-10

I will frontload the day 1 shots of test and deca so as to bring bloodlevels up sooner to desired amount. HCG will be run Weeks 1-11 and Arimidex is on hand if needed. Standard Clomid and Nova woll begin Week 12 thanks to the transition to shorter esters.

The reason anadrol is a possibility is because I have some on hand. I have never tried it and am on the fence regarding it or just sticking with dbol. My goal is to pack on as much weight as I can this round. Feel free to add any input whatsoever.

 

[Longhornrob]

I just got that wonderful email confirming that the above goodies are in the mail. Am I the only one who feels like a kid waking up on Chriatmas every time those emails come?

 

[TBJ9000]

Ooooooooook. Still finalizing pieces of the plan but I will lay it out as it is now. All feedback, criticism, and even shit-talking is welcome (I get bored at the office sometimes and the shit-talking might lighten the mood). Haha. Anyway, I am 25. I have run a couple cycles that went well. Test E+dbol at the front for 10 week runs. My last run yielded about a 25lb quite lean gain, 20 of which stayed with me well past pct. About two months ago, I was convinced to enter a weightlifting contest and started dropping weight to enter into an agreeable weight class. The meet is this coming Saturday. I am down to 195 from the 220 I was at early this year. Needless to say, I will begin eating like a madman when Sunday rolls around. Goal is to be several pounds back up by the time I start cycle.

The cycle will begin when everything arrives. That could be two weeks from now or one month but should not be longer than that. It will look like:

Test 400 (200enanthate+200test decanoate)
.75ml twice a week for 600 mg test Weeks 1-7

Deca 300 (150mg nandro decanoate, 75mg npp, 75mg nandro undeca)
1ml twice a week for 600mg deca Weeks 1-7

Dbol or Anadrol
50mg/day
10wake, 30 lunch/preworkout, 10 night
Weeks 1-4

Test Prop 100
1ml daily with Sundays off
Weeks 8-10

NPP 100
1ml daily with Sundays off
Weeks 8-10

I will frontload the day 1 shots of test and deca so as to bring bloodlevels up sooner to desired amount. HCG will be run Weeks 1-11 and Arimidex is on hand if needed. Standard Clomid and Nova woll begin Week 12 thanks to the transition to shorter esters.

The reason anadrol is a possibility is because I have some on hand. I have never tried it and am on the fence regarding it or just sticking with dbol. My goal is to pack on as much weight as I can this round. Feel free to add any input whatsoever.

If it's LEGIT anadrol use it, if any doubts stick to Dianabol.

 

[Longhornrob]

Thanks TBJ. I am leaning towards using the anadrol. It is definitely legit.

 

[Longhornrob]

Plan has slightly changed but began the cycle yesterday. This is my first cycle of the year and I am starting at a lean 195 so am excited to see where it goes. I have decided to run NPP for all of my nandro. I have never tried nandrolone at any ester so the short half life is appealing in case of bad side effects.

Yesterday kicked things off with:

50mg Anadrol
750mg Test400
100mg NPP
500 iu hcg
.5mg arimidex


Phew. By far the most ml I have ever used at once. It was a bit daunting to look at that syringe filled for frontloading plus the NPP. Also, definitely the most sore I have ever felt from an injection. I am hoping this is at least partly because it was so much and won't be as bad moving forward.

With the pain around the inj site, I did some research over the last 24hrs to see if I could tweak things. I had planned to do my test twice a week and NPP every other day but considering combining them, doing 2ml of NPP twice a week instead of 1ml eod. This is unconventional but all the half life info I have seen makes it look like it should be doable. Thoughts?

Also considering combining the hcg with the test/npp with the thought that the hcg/ba might thin it out and make it less painful but I am doubtful this can work as I wouldn't expect the water and oil to mix.

 

[bigdeee973]

Go with the dbol instead of anadrol. Dbol and deca are very synergistic. IMO they work great together and have for me. One of my favorite stacks hands down

 

[Leanmeatball]

^^^ agreed. Since you already have the drol on hand why not go 25mg of anadrol and 25mg of dbol?

LM

 

[Longhornrob]

Injection #2 was today. It went way smoother. Far less sore. I think the pain on Day 1 was just from the sheer volume of frontloading.

In all reality, I probably should have run dbol instead of adrol. I have only run dbol before and wanted to change things up but since the deca is new, that would have been changing it up already.

 

[Longhornrob]

Regardless, I am already on the gain train at this point and there aren't going to be any stops until I'm unrecognizably meaty.

Today was the first day of really FEELING it. Since it is only day 3, I guess I am feeling the anadrol and maybe some NPP? Anyway, I recovered very fast from yesterday's workout and felt generally stronger today and more energetic. Already noticing a bit of water weight though as I came in to this extremely lean. I may get a little cleaner on the diet but will still maintain a caloric surplus.

Today's highlight at the gym was 3 sets of 5, seated dumbbell military press with 75lbers. Slow negatives, explosive concentric. Felt great.

 

[Longhornrob]

Strength continues to rise. I am about a week and a half in and I have gained 8 pounds, almost certainly water weight but it is a nice measurable sign that this is set to be a good cycle. Injection pain has disappeared altogether and things are settling in nicely.

Today's workout:

Groundwork
Goblet Squats
3 sets

Back Squat
5x225, 5x315, 5x365, 8x365, 10x315

Dumbbell Side laterals
8x30lb,8x30,8x30
SUPERSET W/
Dumbbell Shrugs
8x100,8x100,8x100
SUPERSET W/
Upright Rows
3 sets

Neutral Grip Pullup
8with30lbkettlebell on foot, 6w/30lb, 6w/30lbs drop to 6 bodyweight
SUPERSET W/
3 sets of ab wheel rollouts

Reverse Grip Pulldowns
8x160,8x200

Dumbbell Curls
6x50lb hammers, 8x30 regular, 8x30

Thaaaaat's it. I was supposed to do some dips today but my triceps and chest are still sore from a) pressing on Saturday and b) holding myself up and my girl down during yesterday's cardio session... yet another sign that this is a potent cycle in the works.

 

[Longhornrob]

Today's Workout

Deadlift
3x405, 3x405, 3x405, 2x405, 8x365

Barbell Walking Lunges
12x225, 12x225, 16x225

Dumbbell Bench
8x100, 8x100, 8x100
Superset W/
Machine Reverse Flies
8,8,8

Face Pulls
8,8,8
Superset W/
Barbell Incline
8x135, 8x185, 8x205

Some ab and groundwork


I am now several weeks into cycle. It has been nice. Surprisingly lean gains. I expected way more bloat than I have had. Anadrol, NPP, and Test 400. Started the Adrol at 50mg a day for first two weeks then switched to 100mg a day for the last two. I have gained about 15 pounds total with very little, if any, fat gain. It appears that I have gotten leaner if anything. Very smooth cycle so far. Zero noticeable side effect. Generally very pleased. I think I may extend it a bit but will wait to decide that until around Week 9.

 

[RThoads]

subbed! to watch this gain train roll full steam ahead!

 

[Longhornrob]

Glad to have your company. I'll try not to dissapoint.

 

[Eman45]

If I were you I would drop the long esters and stick with the prop and npp since it looks like you don't want to be on for to long. And would stack the drol with the Dbol 50/20. 4-5 weeks Matter of fact thats what I will be running very very soon. Just with test e n deca. But if you go with one and you had great experiences with Dbol then I would just stick with that since you know you react good with it. But either or would get the job done for sure.

 

[Getbignotdietrying]

in!