Test E/Deca cycle hair loss

[whitejock]

I'm looking for any experience or help with this current cycle.
Stats: 25 years old, 6'0", 225 lbs.

The dosages I'm taking are Test E 600mg/wk, Deca 500mg/wk, and I ran dbol at 40mg/wk for the first 4 weeks. I'm in week 6 and the past couple of weeks I've noticed my hair starting to thin out. I can't tell if it's actually falling out or if the hair shafts have just thinned.

I ran my "first cycle" of my friend's left over dbol at 25mg/wk a couple years ago (it only lasted for 6 weeks) and saw no side effects with regards to my hair. My second cycle, I ran last year, which was sust at 500mg/wk. Again, saw no effects with my hair.

This cycle, my hair has definitely thinned. Which leads me to believe that Deca is the one to blame. However, I've been researching and the general consensus is that Deca converts to DHN and not DHT so it is considered light on the hair line. But, I've also read from a couple guys that Deca caused to do the same thing to their hair.

What do you guys think? I'm finishing out this cycle with just the Test E to see how it affects my hair.

 

[Olympia95]

If your susceptible to male pattern baldness and that is a major concern, then the only gear you would want to use is low dose test, var, tbol, EQ, and deca and maybe some others.

The thing is the deca which your cutting out is not bad on the hair and the dbol you've run is really bad.

It has somthing to do with the androgenic component.

Hairloss is inevitable if you use aas.

You could research finna or other hairloss drugs but Im pretty sure it just bogs down the affect of other aas, and will cause worsen hairloss with the usage of certain compounds.

Good luck OP!!!

 

[Big_paul]

Deca does not aromatize to dht. Including it in a stack helps slow down hair loss. If hair is a priority, you may want to reconsider using performance enhancing drugs.

 

[SuperMaroid]

Sounds like hair loss is just a side effect you get from gear.

 

[Gbro]

Shave your head and grow a goatee.

 

[Rocco_the_Dog]

I know guys that went bald in their 20's and did not run any AAS. Maybe you just have thinning hair and the gear has nothing to do with it.

 

[whitejock]

@rocco I don't think it's thinning naturally since I've had thick hair leading up to this cycle.

Thanks for the help guys. @Olympia it sounds like it's probably the test that's doing it and dbol, I've stopped the dbol altogether. Should I go down to a lower test dosage? It just seems like if I can't even handle test at 600 mg/wk then what's the point of doing AAS. Would a lower dosage of test, like 200mg/wk, with the deca even be that effective?

I'm assuming @BigPaul is right and that the deca should be easy on the hairline and from what I've researched. I guess I just thought it was deca since it's the only new compound I've introduced this cycle and I'm experiencing this problem.

 

[Genghis K.]

Maybe you don't have Deca in the vial you believe to be Deca?

I've never experienced hairloss from Nandrolone. At 25, your DHT is almost in full swing. I believe that is the biggest culprit - but in fairness, that's my "bro science".

 

[whitejock]

I sure hope it's deca. I spend a bit more to have it be pharmacom labs and checked the lab testing.

Yeah I think you're right about the dht. I might go get labs done to check the dht amounts, assuming they can do that. I just would hate to go on finasteride

 

[Just Fish]

I sure hope it's deca. I spend a bit more to have it be pharmacom labs and checked the lab testing.

Yeah I think you're right about the dht. I might go get labs done to check the dht amounts, assuming they can do that. I just would hate to go on finasteride

You should not even be running deca unless you are on Trt. You definitely should not use finasteride. Steroids cause hair loss what did you think was going to happen smh

 

[whitejock]

You should not even be running deca unless you are on Trt. You definitely should not use finasteride. Steroids cause hair loss what did you think was going to happen smh

Obviously not everyone loses their hair while on steroids. Look at Lou Ferrigno.

 

[Just Fish]

Obviously not everyone loses their hair while on steroids. Look at Lou Ferrigno.

Lol, ok have fun with your thinning hair at 25

 

[whitejock]

Lol, ok have fun with your thinning hair at 25

You obviously didn't give a fuck about your hair so you're sitting there with a bald head trolling guys that want their's

 

[Yomane]

Dbol is harsh on the hair. The metabolites mainly. What you're seeing is possibly the delayed effects from dbol.
Nandrolone is also pretty harsh if it's not converted to DHN, which is why you see shedding if you take it with fin. In theory, high doses will result in the same effect.

Test is pretty harsh too. DHT is not much weaker on the hair than tren. If you aren't taking any hair loss compounds on gear you are fucking up.

At a minimum you should be using a growth promoter like minoxidil and topical androgen blocker like spironolactone or ru58841.

 

[whitejock]

Dbol is harsh on the hair. The metabolites mainly. What you're seeing is possibly the delayed effects from dbol.
Nandrolone is also pretty harsh if it's not converted to DHN, which is why you see shedding if you take it with fin. In theory, high doses will result in the same effect.

Test is pretty harsh too. DHT is not much weaker on the hair than tren. If you aren't taking any hair loss compounds on gear you are fucking up.

At a minimum you should be using a growth promoter like minoxidil and topical androgen blocker like spironolactone or ru58841.

Thanks for the post. Is spiro prescribed? I just don't want to touch finasteride after hearing so many crazy side effects. But spiro doesn't sound bad. I've been using minoxidil and nizoral.

I'm done playing around with dbol. I've stopped all the steroids and going to take my pct and anti estrogen early. If it normalizes, then I'm going to retry sust by itself, because I didn't notice this happening when I was on a sust only cycle.

 

[whitejock]

Thanks for the post. Is spiro prescribed? I just don't want to touch finasteride after hearing so many crazy side effects. But spiro doesn't sound bad. I've been using minoxidil and nizoral.

I'm done playing around with dbol. I've stopped all the steroids and going to take my pct and anti estrogen early. If it normalizes, then I'm going to retry sust by itself, because I didn't notice this happening when I was on a sust only cycle.

It seems like it's a guess and check with all of these compounds. I'd imagine people react differently with each one, kind of like why people see different side effects with various prescription drugs.

 

[Yomane]

Thanks for the post. Is spiro prescribed? I just don't want to touch finasteride after hearing so many crazy side effects. But spiro doesn't sound bad. I've been using minoxidil and nizoral.

I'm done playing around with dbol. I've stopped all the steroids and going to take my pct and anti estrogen early. If it normalizes, then I'm going to retry sust by itself, because I didn't notice this happening when I was on a sust only cycle.

Yes but if you look hard enough you can find it. Also make sure you use it topically and not orally or you'll fuck yourself up.

I'm not on finasteride but if you are on a test cycle you shouldn't notice the side effects. It reduces dht by 60-70%, but if you're on high dose test you'll still likely end up with higher than natural dht levels.

 

[whitejock]

Yes but if you look hard enough you can find it. Also make sure you use it topically and not orally or you'll fuck yourself up.

I'm not on finasteride but if you are on a test cycle you shouldn't notice the side effects. It reduces dht by 60-70%, but if you're on high dose test you'll still likely end up with higher than natural dht levels.

I think I'll give finasteride a try then

 

[Just Fish]

You obviously didn't give a fuck about your hair so you're sitting there with a bald head trolling guys that want their's

I'm 35 with a full head of thick ass hair. How you like that you balding little fuckboy?

 

[whitejock]

I'm 35 with a full head of thick ass hair. How you like that you balding little fuckboy?

Lol I feel sorry for you. Troll somewhere else.