Testicular discomfort on first cycle test E

[Bruce_x]

Hello everyone and happy holidays first of all!!
I'm entering week 5 of my first cycle of Testo Enanthate (2x250 mg per week). I started Adex 0.25 mg at the beginning of the 4th week E3.5D. Everything is going well.
I started on the lowest dose of adex because I started to have burning nipples, joint pain, moon face and very swollen during the day with evident emotional sensations.

For about 3 days I have had some discomfort in my testicles, it is certainly due to the interruption of testosterone on their part.
That's why I'm asking you if you too had the same problem and how you solved it. I thought it might be useful to insert 250 IU of HCG 2 times a week to relieve this discomfort and resume it towards the last two weeks of the cycle, before starting the PCT. I repeat, it doesn't hurt, I just feel a slight discomfort that alternates throughout the day and which is easing compared to the first day

Thanks again

 

[Mishka]

maybe you just get blue balls cause your missus does not let you hump her .... but for real, never heard of that nor I did experience it myself. Very strange. Maybe just psychologic cause "I am on test"

 

[Bruce_x]

maybe you just get blue balls cause your missus does not let you hump her .... but for real, never heard of that nor I did experience it myself. Very strange. Maybe just psychologic cause "I am on test"

It would have been much more pleasant if it were thanks to my girlfriend not giving me a break, but alas it's not like that lol .

As you rightly said, since it's the first cycle, I'm convincing myself that I can't attribute any discomfort or body pain to the fact that 'I'm on test' otherwise it would lead to hypochondria.
In the meantime, I am also looking forward to other experiences or advice, if anyone has had similar experiences and if my idea of using HCG could be valid

 

[narta]

It's from your balls shrinking.

 

[rask1123]

Hello everyone and happy holidays first of all!!
I'm entering week 5 of my first cycle of Testo Enanthate (2x250 mg per week). I started Adex 0.25 mg at the beginning of the 4th week E3.5D. Everything is going well.
I started on the lowest dose of adex because I started to have burning nipples, joint pain, moon face and very swollen during the day with evident emotional sensations.

For about 3 days I have had some discomfort in my testicles, it is certainly due to the interruption of testosterone on their part.
That's why I'm asking you if you too had the same problem and how you solved it. I thought it might be useful to insert 250 IU of HCG 2 times a week to relieve this discomfort and resume it towards the last two weeks of the cycle, before starting the PCT. I repeat, it doesn't hurt, I just feel a slight discomfort that alternates throughout the day and which is easing compared to the first day

Thanks again

hey man!

That's because your own T production stopped and they are no longer stimulated by LH and FSH with all consequences.

So just add 1000IU of HCG a week and it will be fine. If you want to save some money do HCG for 3 weeks with 1 week off

 

[buck]

To many orgasms can make my nuts hurt. Can wear out those little muscles it seems. Your only as strong as your weakest link.

 

[Bruce_x]

hey man!

That's because your own T production stopped and they are no longer stimulated by LH and FSH with all consequences.

So just add 1000IU of HCG a week and it will be fine. If you want to save some money do HCG for 3 weeks with 1 week off

Hey hai man and thanks for the reply!!

I imagined it was normal, in fact as soon as I noticed this discomfort I immediately thought 'my testicles have noticed that there is too much text'. With HCG, as far as I have read and am reading, there are only positive things about using it during a cycle, especially to safeguard the health of my testicles.

I immediately took a dose of 250UI of HCG and I will keep it EOD until the end of the cycle, also facilitating the PCT by interrupting it before starting it.

 

[rask1123]

Hey hai man and thanks for the reply!!

I imagined it was normal, in fact as soon as I noticed this discomfort I immediately thought 'my testicles have noticed that there is too much text'. With HCG, as far as I have read and am reading, there are only positive things about using it during a cycle, especially to safeguard the health of my testicles.

I immediately took a dose of 250UI of HCG and I will keep it EOD until the end of the cycle, also facilitating the PCT by interrupting it before starting it.

by the way, you may inject it 1 or 2 times a week. EOD quite inconvenient
Here is the HCG concentration chart after a single injection



So based on that twice a week is good enough and will maintain some concentration of HCG in blood.

So in your case 500IU twice a week will be the way. But make sure you have a good product, preferably pharma

If you're using some drugs with long half life - just keep using HCG for 3 weeks after the last injection of steroids and in a week you can start PCT.

 

[Bruce_x]

by the way, you may inject it 1 or 2 times a week. EOD quite inconvenient
Here is the HCG concentration chart after a single injection

View attachment 273259

So based on that twice a week is good enough and will maintain some concentration of HCG in blood.

So in your case 500IU twice a week will be the way. But make sure you have a good product, preferably pharma

If you're using some drugs with long half life - just keep using HCG for 3 weeks after the last injection of steroids and in a week you can start PCT.

You are super kind and I thank you right away!

It's true, EOD is very inconvenient and it was already starting to weigh on me having to do EOD and the graph you posted, in addition to being very helpful, was also very exhaustive in understanding its half-life and the reason why 2 times a week can be Well.

With one amount of HCG per week is there a chance that the E2 level will increase enough that the Adex dose will need to be increased?

All this will be certain in about 10 days when I will do blood tests to understand whether to increase/modify/maintain the dose of Adex that I am currently using.

As for PCT, I'm using Testi Enanthate, so yes the idea was to wait 35 days to start PCT and use HCG in the last few weeks of the cycle. But if I use it between the last PIN and the PCT I facilitate the latter. You're right

Thanks again man

 

[rask1123]

You are super kind and I thank you right away!

It's true, EOD is very inconvenient and it was already starting to weigh on me having to do EOD and the graph you posted, in addition to being very helpful, was also very exhaustive in understanding its half-life and the reason why 2 times a week can be Well.

With one amount of HCG per week is there a chance that the E2 level will increase enough that the Adex dose will need to be increased?

All this will be certain in about 10 days when I will do blood tests to understand whether to increase/modify/maintain the dose of Adex that I am currently using.

As for PCT, I'm using Testi Enanthate, so yes the idea was to wait 35 days to start PCT and use HCG in the last few weeks of the cycle. But if I use it between the last PIN and the PCT I facilitate the latter. You're right

Thanks again man

You're welcome!)

And regarding E2 - yes, there is a chance you will need to adjust the dose, as itratesticular conversion is quite powerful and difficult to control with AI.
so, it makes sense to check E2 48h after injection to know if you need to adjust it)

 

[mae_geri]

Hello everyone and happy holidays first of all!!
I'm entering week 5 of my first cycle of Testo Enanthate (2x250 mg per week). I started Adex 0.25 mg at the beginning of the 4th week E3.5D. Everything is going well.
I started on the lowest dose of adex because I started to have burning nipples, joint pain, moon face and very swollen during the day with evident emotional sensations.

For about 3 days I have had some discomfort in my testicles, it is certainly due to the interruption of testosterone on their part.
That's why I'm asking you if you too had the same problem and how you solved it. I thought it might be useful to insert 250 IU of HCG 2 times a week to relieve this discomfort and resume it towards the last two weeks of the cycle, before starting the PCT. I repeat, it doesn't hurt, I just feel a slight discomfort that alternates throughout the day and which is easing compared to the first day

Thanks again

hey mate, just add 500 i.u. HCG e4d and it will be fine. I'm doing the same, any my balls are still same size like before.

 

[Jin23]

by the way, you may inject it 1 or 2 times a week. EOD quite inconvenient
Here is the HCG concentration chart after a single injection

View attachment 273259

So based on that twice a week is good enough and will maintain some concentration of HCG in blood.

So in your case 500IU twice a week will be the way. But make sure you have a good product, preferably pharma

If you're using some drugs with long half life - just keep using HCG for 3 weeks after the last injection of steroids and in a week you can start PCT.

Be weary, that graph has logarithmically scaled values on the y axis. HCG can be taken 2x or 3x week with recommendations going both ways but most standard protocol is eod 250 iu if stable blood levels is the most desired outcome as hcg has a T1/2 of 36h.

 

[rask1123]

Be weary, that graph has logarithmically scaled values on the y axis. HCG can be taken 2x or 3x week with recommendations going both ways but most standard protocol is eod 250 iu if stable blood levels is the most desired outcome as hcg has a T1/2 of 36h.

3x a week is a protocol for TRT to avoid hormones spikes.

In case of this guy he is on high dose of Test, so the only concern is E2, for most 2x a week will not skyrocket E2, and even 1x a week will be good if you adjust AI dose.
And in order to maintain fertility and don't let you Leydig cells shut down - 1x a week is enough.

So during cycle doing it 1, 2 or 3 times a week is only the question of convenience and E2 control, not of efficiency, as even in 10 days there is about 10% HCG in blood from peak, so you still have stimulation to some degree

 

[Bruce_x]

3 volte a settimana è un protocollo per la TRT per evitare picchi ormonali.

Nel caso di questo ragazzo sta assumendo una dose elevata di Test, quindi l'unica preoccupazione è E2, per la maggior parte 2 volte a settimana non farà salire alle stelle E2, e anche 1 volta a settimana andrà bene se aggiusti la dose di AI.
E per preservare la fertilità e impedire che le cellule di Leydig si spengano, è sufficiente 1 volta a settimana.

Quindi durante il ciclo farlo 1, 2 o 3 volte a settimana è solo una questione di comodità e di controllo E2, non di efficienza, poiché anche in 10 giorni c'è circa il 10% di HCG nel sangue dal picco, quindi hai ancora stimolazione per alcuni grado

Therefore, the quantity taken fewer times is more dependent on the reaction it will have on E2 than its efficiency which, as we have seen, is not dependent on the number of times HCG is taken during the week.

In this case, reading and listening, I could opt for 2 solutions.

1. Take 500ui x2 per week, monitoring E2 levels through the symptoms until I do the blood tests in 10 days, and from there then evaluate how much and whether to change the dose of adex (at the moment 0.25mg E3.5D, when I have the Testo Enantato pin)

2. Take 250ui x 3 per week, note if at a low dose I don't notice much of an increase in E2 and then after 10 days after blood tests evaluate how much Adex to take and in this case you can also do 500ui x 2 per week with a dose of Adex equal.

Incurring an increase in E2 with the associated classic symptoms such as swelling of the face, joint pain and burning in the nipples and increasing adex before blood tests I seem to have understood through experience and studies that it is not a preferable choice if you don't know them well exam numbers at week 6.

There is also the 3rd option by @mae_geri with 500ui E4D had the usual experience, but here again I would not want to have a high E2 increase.

 

[laclark89]

It's from your balls shrinking.

What he said 100%,

When I got on test my nuts usto hurt so freakin bad, a few months later there was nothing left to hurt anymore.

 

[rask1123]

Therefore, the quantity taken fewer times is more dependent on the reaction it will have on E2 than its efficiency which, as we have seen, is not dependent on the number of times HCG is taken during the week.

In this case, reading and listening, I could opt for 2 solutions.

1. Take 500ui x2 per week, monitoring E2 levels through the symptoms until I do the blood tests in 10 days, and from there then evaluate how much and whether to change the dose of adex (at the moment 0.25mg E3.5D, when I have the Testo Enantato pin)

2. Take 250ui x 3 per week, note if at a low dose I don't notice much of an increase in E2 and then after 10 days after blood tests evaluate how much Adex to take and in this case you can also do 500ui x 2 per week with a dose of Adex equal.

Incurring an increase in E2 with the associated classic symptoms such as swelling of the face, joint pain and burning in the nipples and increasing adex before blood tests I seem to have understood through experience and studies that it is not a preferable choice if you don't know them well exam numbers at week 6.

There is also the 3rd option by @mae_geri with 500ui E4D had the usual experience, but here again I would not want to have a high E2 increase.

I'd do 2x500IU a week, If you're afraid of E2 spikes.

But I personally prefer 1000 once a week

 

[Horror Cock]

To many orgasms can make my nuts hurt. Can wear out those little muscles it seems. Your only as strong as your weakest link.

The case here is obviously about gonadotropins falling and testis shrinking.

But I can add another reason some may get balls ache, for me it's red light therapy on them. It used to not be the case but now (after trying steroids) direct red light therapy makes them hurt.

 

[buck]

The case here is obviously about gonadotropins falling and testis shrinking.

But I can add another reason some may get balls ache, for me it's red light therapy on them. It used to not be the case but now (after trying steroids) direct red light therapy makes them hurt.

As the Op implies he is having lots of sex it may not be as obvious as you think. It can even be from a conflation of numerous things.

 

[Bruce_x]

I'd do 2x500IU a week, If you're afraid of E2 spikes.

But I personally prefer 1000 once a week

Thanks again for the help!

I started taking 250ui EOD to see how I reacted, starting carefully on the effects of the e2, within 3 injections the discomfort disappeared and returns slightly, but really only once during the day, on the days when I have to do the pin.

I noticed that the sides of the e2s slightly unsettled me, because if with 0.25mg of adex things were going well regarding the sides and sensations, now they have increased a little.

From what I've read, shouldn't such a low dose of HCG have effects on E2, which is a symptom that aromatizes a lot and is prone to having an E2 that is very sensitive to variations?