Testosterone Undecanoate (best time to do TT blood test) ?

[lukiss96]

Hello people, I need your opinion on when do you think it's best to take bloods (TT testosterone serum concentration) ?
I want to see where it puts me as I've only seen my numbers on TE/TC and sustanon when it comes to testosterone.

My injection protocol is:
-1ml T undec every tuesday

By the way carrier oil is sesame, not castor, so I've read it's half life is +- 21 days.

 

[Rido]

I would say do it on Friday so you can see midpoint of levels.

It won't be that much lower on injection day either because of the long half life

 

[Rido]

this was me doing 180-190mg(jano tested) 5 days out

 

[lukiss96]

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this was me doing 180-190mg(jano tested) 5 days out

Helpful, thanks. Interesting thing is your shbg quite low, but I think you know enough about it yourself.

I have shbg on the lower side too, not under range, but just a bit over the lowest norm. I too matabolize testosterone similarly, my TT is good but FT is too high. I thought with TU this it should raise, but seeing your bw makes me think it doesn't work quite like that.

 

[Rido]

Helpful, thanks. Interesting thing is your shbg quite low, but I think you know enough about it yourself.

I have shbg on the lower side too, not under range, but just a bit over the lowest norm. I too matabolize testosterone similarly, my TT is good but FT is too high. I thought with TU this it should raise, but seeing your bw makes me think it doesn't work quite like that.

this is 3 weeks after my cycle. my baseline SHBG was 13 prior to any anabolics

 

[hudson98]

personally id stick with tread and true, test e, c, prop. not sure why this ester is becoming so popular.

 

[lukiss96]

personally id stick with tread and true, test e, c, prop. not sure why this ester is becoming so popular.

Shit happened with enanthate, I always liked it. Then my sources closed (due to war and politics) not gonna get too much in to it. I couldn't get good quality TE, so I switched to sustanon felt too much rollercoaster, I have lower shbg so I need to inject sust ed or else I feel too much sides estrogen spikes and all that stuff. So the option was to switch to TU and I did that, it works fine so far. Once a week seems as stable as TE 3x week (by feels of course).

 

[Rido]

personally id stick with tread and true, test e, c, prop. not sure why this ester is becoming so popular.

Because maintaining stable levels are optimal... Half life of 21 days and vs half life of 4.5 days...


To each their own but I would rather go for most consistent and most convenient methods


The reason it is becoming popular is because UGL access has increased and we don't need to spend 200 dollars for 800mg of pharma nebido

 

[hudson98]

Because maintaining stable levels are optimal... Half life of 21 days and vs half life of 4.5 days...


To each their own but I would rather go for most consistent and most convenient methods


The reason it is becoming popular is because UGL access has increased and we don't need to spend 200 dollars for 800mg of pharma nebido

his situation may be unique if he can't access the gold standard that physiques have been built on (c, e, prop), but I think overall the issue is we are looking to make things 'easier". we see guys wanting to inject less frequent now, want to shoot everything sub Q, etc.

pro bodybuilders aren't using super long acting test and shooting sub q. to me optimal is drugs that are in and out, shot ED or EOD. I like prop. if we look at tren, everyone who has sense uses ace, not tren E. There is a reason. In and out drugs, HRT is for old men, if we want performance the short acting drugs seem to have more POP

 

[Iron_Yuppie]

his situation may be unique if he can't access the gold standard that physiques have been built on (c, e, prop), but I think overall the issue is we are looking to make things 'easier". we see guys wanting to inject less frequent now, want to shoot everything sub Q, etc.

pro bodybuilders aren't using super long acting test and shooting sub q. to me optimal is drugs that are in and out, shot ED or EOD. I like prop. if we look at tren, everyone who has sense uses ace, not tren E. There is a reason. In and out drugs, HRT is for old men, if we want performance the short acting drugs seem to have more POP

Increase in HCT is much less common with long esters. Frequency of injection appears to have a direct correlation to higher HCT. For those who can’t keep that number down the choice is either try a long ester or go off entirely. That’s an easy choice for most to make.

 

[hudson98]

Increase in HCT is much less common with long esters. Frequency of injection appears to have a direct correlation to higher HCT. For those who can’t keep that number down the choice is either try a long ester or go off entirely. That’s an easy choice for most to make.

ive hever had high HCT on gear. I think sometimes the internet tries to reinvent the wheel. For years cyp, e, sust, omnas. Other than this board ive never even heard of anyone using this ester. We see how weak EQ is.

 

[Iron_Yuppie]

We see how weak EQ is.

I don’t even know how to respond to that. You do know that EQ is a completely different hormone, right?

 

[hudson98]

yes?

if they made a super duper long acting tren, would you take it over tren ace that is tried and true? why is tren E not more popular?

 

[Rido]

ive hever had high HCT on gear. I think sometimes the internet tries to reinvent the wheel. For years cyp, e, sust, omnas. Other than this board ive never even heard of anyone using this ester. We see how weak EQ is.

I would probably say that the pharmaceutical industry did...

It goes by brand name Aveed...

 

[All Nats McGee]

You want to do all your testing at the same time so you can compare it with your other bloodwork. Most do it around 48 hours after their last injection.

 

[lukiss96]

I would probably say that the pharmaceutical industry did...

It goes by brand name Aveed...

Here in Europe it's either sustanon or nebido (undecanoate) that's it, no other esters for sale in any pharmacy officially at least to my knowledge.

@All Nats McGee I used to do it on through with enanthate though, I injected 3x week (mon/wed/fri) so monday before my next furthest injection I used to do blood work.

 

[hudson98]

I would probably say that the pharmaceutical industry did...

It goes by brand name Aveed...

the Pharma industry and supplement industry always want something new, to re-invent the wheel, that what keeps $$ coming in. they made the world fear a cold so they could get their vaccine in everyone. look at these idiotic peptides, kids use them when they could get the real deal, HGH, but thats too simple, gotta be something new. Phamra knows old men don't want to inject so they come out with this long acting, they came out with pellets a year ago, it was a disaster. ill stick to my frequent shots thats just me, and ill do them IM. can't fix something thats not broken IMO, don't need a shiny new object when it comes to something as simple as test

 

[cdoubleu]

@hudson98, tried and true is great and I think there is a lot of truth to what you’re say. At the same time not all new things are bad. You mention peptides as idiotic but I for instance saw great results from checking out the new. Or at least new to me.