TGI Test Pro Cycle

[MikeIronTyson]

Here are my results 9 weeks into my first cycle (started 4/13). Bloods were taken 36hrs after Test C and 18hrs after Test P injections.

Test C 120mg E3.5D (trt script)
Test P 50mg ED (TGI)

Also did a bod pod pre cycle in February and one again last Friday - 22lbs lean muscle mass gained at 9 week mark and I was on an ostarine cut from the time I took my first bod pod until I began my bulk cycle.

Test P was GSO and completely pipless. First few days before pack landed(which was extremely quick) I used the free vial of Dragon PharmaI had laying around and the difference is night and day. Even my Pharma Cyp has pip.

Last bloods I took with doctor showed 1500ng/dl 36hrs after last injection.

AST was in range in January, in March I ran some tests with gastro(running ostarine at this point) and liver enzymes were elevated(had previously been told I had fatty liver a couple years ago) started taking liv.52 since then and liver enzymes still elevated. I think the ostarine fucked with my liver cus I haven’t drank in 2.5 years. I think I can count on never taking orals with my cycle.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Here are my results 9 weeks into my first cycle (started 4/13). Bloods were taken 36hrs after Test C and 18hrs after Test P injections.

Test C 120mg E3.5D (trt script)
Test P 50mg ED (TGI)

Also did a bod pod pre cycle in February and one again last Friday - 22lbs lean muscle mass gained at 9 week mark and I was on an ostarine cut from the time I took my first bod pod until I began my bulk cycle.

Test P was GSO and completely pipless. First few days before pack landed(which was extremely quick) I used the free vial of Dragon PharmaI had laying around and the difference is night and day. Even my Pharma Cyp has pip.

Last bloods I took with doctor showed 1500ng/dl 36hrs after last injection.

AST was in range in January, in March I ran some tests with gastro(running ostarine at this point) and liver enzymes were elevated(had previously been told I had fatty liver a couple years ago) started taking liv.52 since then and liver enzymes still elevated. I think the ostarine fucked with my liver cus I haven’t drank in 2.5 years. I think I can count on never taking orals with my cycle.

Looks like it’s almost time to drop a pint of blood too. Hemocrit is getting there.

I was a heavy drinker for years and try to stay away from orals for that reason. If you run short cycles (8-10 weeks) with short esters you don’t need them anyway. Just keep an eye on that AST it should get better. Liver regenerates.

Thanks for sharing the bloodwork.


Edit: Two schools of thought on the estrogen. Some guys will say knock that down a little 20-30. Then other guys will say the test is high so estrogen is ok high. I prefer mine in the 40-60 range myself. As long as you’re not getting any sides with the slightly elevated estrogen it’s a personal preference. I think slightly elevated estrogen helps promote growth.

 

[MikeIronTyson]

Looks like it’s almost time to drop a pint of blood too. Hemocrit is getting there.

I was a heavy drinker for years and try to stay away from orals for that reason. If you run short cycles (8-10 weeks) with short esters you don’t need them anyway. Just keep an eye on that AST it should get better. Liver regenerates.

Thanks for sharing the bloodwork.


Edit: Two schools of thought on the estrogen. Some guys will say knock that down a little 20-30. Then other guys will say the test is high so estrogen is ok high. I prefer mine in the 40-60 range myself. As long as you’re not getting any sides with the slightly elevated estrogen it’s a personal preference. I think slightly elevated estrogen helps promote growth.

Thanks for the feedback. Yeah I feel good with my estrogen higher. I prob will just keep doing the short esters as you mentioned until my doc backs off my testing and then just front load a long ester with a short ester, no amount of gains are worth wrecking my liver.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Here are my results 9 weeks into my first cycle (started 4/13). Bloods were taken 36hrs after Test C and 18hrs after Test P injections.

Test C 120mg E3.5D (trt script)
Test P 50mg ED (TGI)

Also did a bod pod pre cycle in February and one again last Friday - 22lbs lean muscle mass gained at 9 week mark and I was on an ostarine cut from the time I took my first bod pod until I began my bulk cycle.

Test P was GSO and completely pipless. First few days before pack landed(which was extremely quick) I used the free vial of Dragon PharmaI had laying around and the difference is night and day. Even my Pharma Cyp has pip.

Last bloods I took with doctor showed 1500ng/dl 36hrs after last injection.

AST was in range in January, in March I ran some tests with gastro(running ostarine at this point) and liver enzymes were elevated(had previously been told I had fatty liver a couple years ago) started taking liv.52 since then and liver enzymes still elevated. I think the ostarine fucked with my liver cus I haven’t drank in 2.5 years. I think I can count on never taking orals with my cycle.

These are barely elevated. I wouldn’t be concerned just yet. Not a doctor but have a great one knowledgeable about gear and mine are above yours; he isn’t worried. Part of the territory. Try to rehab it between cycles.

 

[fershiz85]

Second the e2 suggestion from bbbg. Unless you're a high aromatizer and you start getting spicy nips, etc... I'd just keep on trucking.

 

[MikeIronTyson]

These are barely elevated. I wouldn’t be concerned just yet. Not a doctor but have a great one knowledgeable about gear and mine are above yours; he isn’t worried. Part of the territory. Try to rehab it between cycles.

That’s good to hear. What values should I look at normalizing when determining to run another cycle? LH and FSH?

 

[Mac11wildcat]

That’s good to hear. What values should I look at normalizing when determining to run another cycle? LH and FSH?

If you’re PCTing, I’d want to see a normalized Test and estrogen value, normal LH and FSH, as good of liver and kidney values as possible (in range or “normal” for you if you have a history) and maybe donate blood before pulling the next trigger.