The generic vs pharma GH discussion

justaphan

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Id like to start an official conversation on generic/UG vs verified pharma name brand GH. I've seen it come up in other threads and there's lots of opinions. I thought we could centralize it. This is NOT the place to mention sources or lab names. This IS the place to talk about noticed effects of lab made or pharma sourced. Anecdotal observations are fair enough, especially if you have experience with both. Blood panels are even better, especially if you can show both. Third party purity results from janoshik or similar are all well and good if you or someone you trust submitted the sample for testing but I have a hard time trusting results when the sample was sent by the supplier.
What I'm particularly interested is quality changes over time. If you've been in the game a while and have tried both, have you noticed a trending change over time or do you think things have stayed relatively the same.
I'll go first.
I have been using gh on and off for about 15 years. When I first started I remember 3 units per day used to be my sweet spot for generic. More and i would get pins and needles, less and i wouldn't notice a change on my labs. About 12 years ago I tried pharma pens and 2 units would effect my labs but as much as 5 units wouldn't give me the pins and needles effects.
I took several years off. About 2 years ago I tried generic again and it took 4 to 5 units to reliably increase my labs but I didn't notice any real negative sides even when I ran 10 units for a short period of time. I have not tried pharma again. I plan to next time I incorporate gh, but I plan to do more of a forever ghrt protocol moving forward. That's beside the point I guess though.
I'm assuming the impurities or varied ingredients in generic cause the sides (I sometimes wonder if generic is actually gh) but I would have thought quality would have improved over the years.
What are the thoughts of the community?
 
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Id like to start an official conversation on generic/UG vs verified pharma name brand GH. I've seen it come up in other threads and there's lots of opinions. I thought we could centralize it. This is NOT the place to mention sources or lab names. This IS the place to talk about noticed effects of lab made or pharma sourced. Anecdotal observations are fair enough, especially if you have experience with both. Blood panels are even better, especially if you can show both. Third party purity results from janoshik or similar are all well and good if you or someone you trust submitted the sample for testing but I have a hard time trusting results when the sample was sent by the supplier.
What I'm particularly interested is quality changes over time. If you've been in the game a while and have tried both, have you noticed a trending change over time or do you think things have stayed relatively the same.
I'll go first.
I have been using gh on and off for about 15 years. When I first started I remember 3 units per day used to be my sweet spot for generic. More and i would get pins and needles, less and i wouldn't notice a change on my labs. About 12 years ago I tried pharma pens and 2 units would effect my labs but as much as 5 units wouldn't give me the pins and needles effects.
I took several years off. About 2 years ago I tried generic again and it took 4 to 5 units to reliably increase my labs but I didn't notice any real negative sides even when I ran 10 units for a short period of time. I have not tried pharma again. I plan to next time I incorporate gh, but I plan to do more of a forever ghrt protocol moving forward. That's beside the point I guess though.
I'm assuming the impurities or varied ingredients in generic cause the sides (I sometimes wonder if generic is actually gh) but I would have thought quality would have improved over the years.
What are the thoughts of the community?
Ummmmmmm NO.

Use the search function, this fucking horse has been beaten to death. Holy fucking shit
 
Id like to start an official conversation on generic/UG vs verified pharma name brand GH. I've seen it come up in other threads and there's lots of opinions. I thought we could centralize it. This is NOT the place to mention sources or lab names. This IS the place to talk about noticed effects of lab made or pharma sourced. Anecdotal observations are fair enough, especially if you have experience with both. Blood panels are even better, especially if you can show both. Third party purity results from janoshik or similar are all well and good if you or someone you trust submitted the sample for testing but I have a hard time trusting results when the sample was sent by the supplier.
What I'm particularly interested is quality changes over time. If you've been in the game a while and have tried both, have you noticed a trending change over time or do you think things have stayed relatively the same.
I'll go first.
I have been using gh on and off for about 15 years. When I first started I remember 3 units per day used to be my sweet spot for generic. More and i would get pins and needles, less and i wouldn't notice a change on my labs. About 12 years ago I tried pharma pens and 2 units would effect my labs but as much as 5 units wouldn't give me the pins and needles effects.
I took several years off. About 2 years ago I tried generic again and it took 4 to 5 units to reliably increase my labs but I didn't notice any real negative sides even when I ran 10 units for a short period of time. I have not tried pharma again. I plan to next time I incorporate gh, but I plan to do more of a forever ghrt protocol moving forward. That's beside the point I guess though.
I'm assuming the impurities or varied ingredients in generic cause the sides (I sometimes wonder if generic is actually gh) but I would have thought quality would have improved over the years.
What are the thoughts of the community?

If you have them and don't mind sharing, please post some of your testing results: GH dose vs IGF-1 response.
 
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