The importance of stacking

[Elephant]

How important do you guys think stacking is???

For example, which is a better cycle:

300 mg Test Prop/Susp ED or

200 mg Test Prop/Susp and 100 mg Tren ED?

Is the Tren worth the extra cost?

Am I making this too complicated?

Thanks,
Elephant

 

[kent1]

I woudnt add the tren there, not only cuz its not cheap, but because i would stack the test with other's that would make my cycle more " round " without shutting off receptors so fast .

kent

 

[doggmann]

running tests @over 2g per week is plenty for mass and strength by itself...

 

[Willi]

running tests @over 2g per week is plenty for mass and strength by itself...

I agree doggmann, but I'll go one further. You could cut that amount of Test in half, spend the bucks you save on good food, and you'll still make good gains....providing you're putting in the hours at the gym.

 

[armsports]

No offense, but the fact that you're asking this question implies that you haven't done a lot of cycles which leads me to believe that's too much gear for you. Not to mention you're gonna be in pain real quick shooting that much prop everyday. How about 100mg prop/100mg tren eod or 200mg prop/susp eod?

 

[ThePatriot]

No offense, but the fact that you're asking this question implies that you haven't done a lot of cycles which leads me to believe that's too much gear for you. Not to mention you're gonna be in pain real quick shooting that much prop everyday. How about 100mg prop/100mg tren eod or 200mg prop/susp eod?

Going to have to agree to the top 2 replies. You dont need that much test and I assure you that your goign to need to save up on money to buy food. I dont even fucken start a cycle unless I have a credit card on hand

ThePatriot

 

[Elephant]

Thanks for the replies.

A couple of things:

1) I have done steroids for about 10 years, so I know a few things,

2) At 5'9" and 270 at 12% BF I have aquired a little bit of strength and muscle.

The reason I asked this is because I have never done so much test and wanted "opinions" on what some good options are. I have done plenty of cycles with 1000 mg Test and 700 mg Tren. This next time around I thought I would try something different. My food and protein intake is PERFECT at about 500 grams a day. I weigh everything and workout very consistently and hard.

Again, I am thinking about going up is dosage and I wondered if anyone has tried that much test by itself. Also, I have heard so many great things about IP Prop/Susp.

Sorry I didn't post my stats first but I would very much appreciate any comments on the advantages/disadvantages of the two cycles.

Thanks,
Elephant

 

[armsports]

I have done upwards of 2g/wk of test and to be honest with you the gains weren't that much more than I got at 1g/wk, but the sides were noticably greater (insomnia, flushing, etc.). I have gotten good results with combining those two drugs, and yes, the prop/susp is a very good product. I just don't feel the need to go that high anymore. For what it's worth I've been cycling for close to four years and am six feet and a shade over three bills now. Good luck.

 

[Deacon]

well bro if you know what works for you go with it. But I always suggest well thought out stacks. Just running test all of the time by itself will eventually lead to system shut down or you will get to the point where you cannot afford it anymore because you will have to take to much of it.


I always consider what I want to gain for example; this cycle -

dbol- kicks off the cycle and gets me going quickly.
EQ - good solid gains in mass and strength with little or no bloat.
Test enth - weight and strength gainer - the meat and potatoes of the cycle.
proviron - to solidify the gains in the last couple of weeks and give a ripped hard look to the body.

So this is how I decide what to use - I just dont say - Hell lets use 2gms of test a week this cycle.

Using one drug is never as good as using two or three as long as your goals are clear.

 

[tazz]

You should get better results with the stack that you will from the test alone.

 

[jakebarnes]

[QUOTE=Deacon]well bro if you know what works for you go with it. But I always suggest well thought out stacks. Just running test all of the time by itself will eventually lead to system shut down or you will get to the point where you cannot afford it anymore because you will have to take to much of it.


I always consider what I want to gain for example; this cycle -

dbol- kicks off the cycle and gets me going quickly.
EQ - good solid gains in mass and strength with little or no bloat.
Test enth - weight and strength gainer - the meat and potatoes of the cycle.
proviron - to solidify the gains in the last couple of weeks and give a ripped hard look to the body.

So this is how I decide what to use - I just dont say - Hell lets use 2gms of test a week this cycle.

Using one drug is never as good as using two or three as long as your goals are clear.[/QUOTE]

I like your comments but wonder about substituting Deca for EQ in the stack above. Good, slow, mass and strength gains, low sides and water retention can be kept in check by Proviron. Thoughts?

thanks

--jake

 

[Starkraven]

[QUOTE=Deacon]well bro if you know what works for you go with it. But I always suggest well thought out stacks. Just running test all of the time by itself will eventually lead to system shut down or you will get to the point where you cannot afford it anymore because you will have to take to much of it.


I always consider what I want to gain for example; this cycle -

dbol- kicks off the cycle and gets me going quickly.
EQ - good solid gains in mass and strength with little or no bloat.
Test enth - weight and strength gainer - the meat and potatoes of the cycle.
proviron - to solidify the gains in the last couple of weeks and give a ripped hard look to the body.

So this is how I decide what to use - I just dont say - Hell lets use 2gms of test a week this cycle.

Using one drug is never as good as using two or three as long as your goals are clear.

I like your comments but wonder about substituting Deca for EQ in the stack above. Good, slow, mass and strength gains, low sides and water retention can be kept in check by Proviron. Thoughts?

thanks

--jake[/QUOTE]

jake, i would use eq over deca anyday. im not into deca at all, never used it, but from what i hear, it bloats you, has progestogenic effects, stays in the system too long, real bad HPTA shutdown worse than fina. ive used eq ganabol and ultragan and liked them. i got more vascular with them, like as if it created new veins, and im planning on using it again soon. i would definately go with eq at 500-600mg per week...with test/fina of course. and dbol. and arimidex. and other drugs but thats beyond the scope of this thread.

 

[Grizzly]

I'll warn you right now. The P/S will tear your ass up. It'll hurt, but it's great stuff. If you really want to use it, PM me and I'll tell you how I do it so that it doesn't hurt very much.