The Lobster International,EU and UK domestic HGH,PEPTIDES and Turkish Pharmacy

[TheLobster]

Lobster mentioned that the batch available for EU domestic is the one that was produced when the vacuum-seal machinery was still working correctly. What you are describing is consistent with the ~2000 Pa low-vacuum that he stated as the capability of the machinery when not broken.

Arguably, the stronger vacuums present in most peptide vials from China would be preferable, since the latter contain even less air particles and humidity. Might be an argument for Lobster to upgrade his machinery instead of repairing the existing one.

The machine does not apply top pressure with 5-10 Pa. Instead, the machine applies top pressure with around 2000-3000 Pa

EU domestic manufacturing and international manufacturing are different. I have one set up in Turkiye and another in the EU, so this means I have two machines.

You cannot dry peptides with 2,000 Pa. The machine MUST go down to 10 Pa or lower
The first drying step requires a temperature range of -45°C to 20°C with 10 Pa
To reach 25°C, around 1-2 Pa is needed for approximately 8-10 hours
If the machine doesn’t go to these levels, you cannot properly dry peptides

I don’t need to change the machine. As I mentioned earlier, the top pressure doesn’t work with 10 Pa or lower. The top pressure only works with 2,000 Pa or higher. This is the issue.

For the EU batch, the vials are sealed with 2 Pa or lower no doubt

Whether it’s with or without vacuum, both take the same amount of time,work and the vacuum doesn’t cost me extra money. I don’t take shortcuts. Let’s be clear about this

Thank you

 

[MyNameIsJeff]

EU domestic manufacturing and international manufacturing are different. I have one set up in Turkiye and another in the EU, so this means I have two machines.

You cannot dry peptides with 2,000 Pa. The machine MUST go down to 10 Pa or lower
The first drying step requires a temperature range of -45°C to 20°C with 10 Pa
To reach 25°C, around 1-2 Pa is needed for approximately 8-10 hours
If the machine doesn’t go to these levels, you cannot properly dry peptides

I don’t need to change the machine. As I mentioned earlier, the top pressure doesn’t work with 10 Pa or lower. The top pressure only works with 2,000 Pa or higher. This is the issue.

For the EU batch, the vials are sealed with 2 Pa or lower no doubt

Whether it’s with or without vacuum, both take the same amount of time,work and the vacuum doesn’t cost me extra money. I don’t take shortcuts. Let’s be clear about this

Thank you

Thanks for the clarification, but if the EU-batch vials are sealed with <2 Pa, then how do you explain this observation by user @Eddie?

The kit i'm using currently from EU domestic has a "slight" vacuum, not a strong one but i can't say it hasn't any at all.

To explain it better, when i first pin the vial to reconstitute it with bac water, with no pressure at plunger it just sucks water in with a slow pace.

You don't have to press it down (perhaps needs a little push when bac water is near the end inside the syringe) but definitely not that scary sucking you have to hold the plunger to prevent water going in crazy fast.

 

[TheLobster]

Thanks for the clarification, but if the EU-batch vials are sealed with <2 Pa, then how do you explain this observation by user @Eddie

The smoothness level of each syringe is not the same. It can change even with a slow or fast insertion of the needle. I don’t have a hobby of lying to anyone. If I say it was sealed with 2 Pa, it was sealed with 2 Pa. I can’t get anywhere by lying. I have always been an honest and ethical person

 

[MyNameIsJeff]

The smoothness level of each syringe is not the same. It can change even with a slow or fast insertion of the needle. I don’t have a hobby of lying to anyone. If I say it was sealed with 2 Pa, it was sealed with 2 Pa. I can’t get anywhere by lying. I have always been an honest and ethical person

I'm not saying that you are lying. But a maintained 2 Pa vacuum would pull the plunger with a lot of force, no matter the smoothness of the syringe. I have reconstituted hundreds of vials from the same manufacturers, and the vacuum level was very consistent for those.

What may have happened in @Eddie's case is that the vial seal was not perfect so that the pressure differential slowly decreased over time while in storage. That should at least be worth investigating. Perhaps @Eddie. can report back when he has reconstituted many more vials from the same batch.

 

[mochul]

Are the raws made in your factory too is is it imported from china? Glp and hgh

 

[TheLobster]

I'm not saying that you are lying. But a maintained 2 Pa vacuum would pull the plunger with a lot of force, no matter the smoothness of the syringe. I have reconstituted hundreds of vials from the same manufacturers, and the vacuum level was very consistent for those.

What may have happened in @Eddie's case is that the vial seal was not perfect so that the pressure differential slowly decreased over time while in storage. That should at least be worth investigating. Perhaps @Eddie. can report back when he has reconstituted many more vials from the same batch.

My friend is making peptides with low Pa or high Pa? Can you tell me what would make me stop using less vacuum? Do you have any ideas on what could make me stop using less vacuum?

As I told you, the vacuum level for the EU batch is set at 2 Pa, and this is a fact. It would be foolish to seal the vials at a higher Pa level while the machine is set to 2 Pa. I hope you understand.

Thank you

 

[TheLobster]

Are the raws made in your factory too is is it imported from china? Glp and hgh

Hello

We do not make raw materials of any

We import

Thank you

 

[IceIcebaby22]

I was looking to put another order in today.

@TheLobster - Can you please confirm if the current UK stock have vacuum?

My last two kits both contained vacuum similar to other top generics. Otherwise will wait until you confirm your machine is fixed.

 

[bighunanballs]

I don't think anyone is questioning the lyophilizing process. What people are understandably upset with is the finished bottling procedure and these products not having a vacuum pulled for long-term storage and shelf life stability.

 

[TheLobster]

I don't think anyone is questioning the lyophilizing process. What people are understandably upset with is the finished bottling procedure and these products not having a vacuum pulled for long-term storage and shelf life stability.

The duration of safety will be determined by the tests.

The first test will be conducted in January, the second test in June, and the third test in December. Currently, nothing is certain.

Top pressure for vials and the lyophilization machine are the same. I do not explain the lyophilization steps; I just provided a little information.

There is a separate bottling machine that only handles capping.

The rubber top pressure and lyophilization are performed by the same machine.

 

[TheLobster]

I was looking to put another order in today.

@TheLobster - Can you please confirm if the current UK stock have vacuum?

My last two kits both contained vacuum similar to other top generics. Otherwise will wait until you confirm your machine is fixed.

Hi

Uk stock has 2 kits just left . They are with vacuum but already sold out i belive will check. New stocks in January with vacuum yes

Thank you

 

[bighunanballs]

The duration of safety will be determined by the tests.

The first test will be conducted in January, the second test in June, and the third test in December. Currently, nothing is certain.

Top pressure for vials and the lyophilization machine are the same. I do not explain the lyophilization steps; I just provided a little information.

There is a separate bottling machine that only handles capping.

The rubber top pressure and lyophilization are performed by the same machine.

If there is degradation beyond the typical degradation seen on standard vacuumed vials will you be crediting or replacing peoples products?

 

[TheLobster]

If there is degradation beyond the typical degradation seen on standard vacuumed vials will you be crediting or replacing peoples products?

Yes i will no doubt . But you only write things never made an order i guess

 

[TheLobster]

for long-term storage and shelf life stability.

Can i ask how long time are we talking about?

 

[bighunanballs]

Yes i will no doubt . But you only write things never made an order i guess

Ya I'm shitty like that. I'm on the sidelines waiting for your 36-40iu kits at 98%

 

[bighunanballs]

Can i ask how long time are we talking about?

I think you can reasonably test out to 1 year beyond that is not fair to expect a source to have capability of guaranteed degradation numbers. Maybe more people can chime in. I personally sit on stored HGH for many years though. We've seen hgh degradation of large generics operations only lose minimal purity % over 5 years stored in a fridge

 

[Eddie.]

What may have happened in @Eddie's case is that the vial seal was not perfect so that the pressure differential slowly decreased over time while in storage. That should at least be worth investigating. Perhaps @Eddie. can report back when he has reconstituted many more vials from the same batch.

For clarification, i just reconstituted a new vial. I just pinned and let all the bac let loose only for you guys here to see the rate of flow. I don't do it that way, i always go slower and avoid hitting the powder directly with the water (i aim for the side glass).

I used 0,9ml bac water, i'm holding the plunger with my thumb and you can see the plunger going down when i remove my thumb. This is my fifth vial and all are having the same vacuum (just my estimation).

I don't know if this is considered slow, fast or in between, i just can say for sure i've used other peptides which sucked the plunger in like 1 second. It was my first time using a peptide (BPC) and i didn't know they're vacuumed that much.

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[bighunanballs]

Can i ask how long time are we talking about?

If you test at 1 month or 3 months and see greater degradation I'd just shut it down at that point and compensate folks that received non vacuumed vials.

 

[TheLobster]

Ya I'm shitty like that. I'm on the sidelines waiting for your 36-40iu kits at 98%

Well to be honest my friend

Same raw material used for
110 iu,310 iu,40 iu and 50 iu

I do not use many different suppliers for raw

For HGH, I only use one company
For other peptides, I use two companies

Thank you

 

[Standfast]

Is there any chance of the GH being degraded by not having sufficient vacuum to keep the product in puck form? The one I have and others I've seen are vials full of crumbles.