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Thinking about trying Tren
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I've used tren a lot in the past when competing, and I would only use it during a contest diet. Also, I would never use Tren E, always Tren A. That way if you start having sides that are too hard to deal with you can stop and the drug will be out of your system much sooner. I really never liked how I felt on tren, but loved the results it gave physically. Mentally, I was paranoid, anxious, moody, and had a very difficult time sleeping. If you're dead set on using it start with a low dose like you have said, and see how it goes, but I wouldn't use Tren E for your first go with Tren.
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wsmwannabe
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First and foremost, have you read about and considered all of the potential side effects of tren? Not just the typical night sweats, mood, and ED, but the long term health effects on the heart and the brain.
Second, running tren E for 4-5 weeks will result in very little. I'm not even sure that would be long enough to see if you react poorly to it. Even with tren A it can take 3 weeks for the bad sides to appear, and with E being a longer ester, it could take a lot longer to notice sides.
If you're running 4-5 weeks, run ace. There are also many things you can do to help combat sides, but there is no guarantee you can get rid of them either.
Starting low and slow is always much better with something like tren
Test_Subject
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Why do you feel like tren would be better than other less harsh choices, would be my first question?
I’m not saying that it isn’t, but any time that you can not use tren you’re better off not using tren, IMO.
I’m not saying that it isn’t, but any time that you can not use tren you’re better off not using tren, IMO.
@lilhawk Makes sense. I dislike having to pin frequently, but if it is better, I'll manage.
@wsmwannabe ED? I've heard about the opposite. If I give it a go, I'll go with ace. As for the rest side effects. It's not something that I see myself running frequently. And in the end, don't we all react differently?
From what I've seen, most people have more sides at around week 5. Thus, since it would be my first time, I'd prefer to use a rather low dose for a short period of time.
@Test_Subject Not better. Doing it mostly out of curiosity. Was wondering how I'd react to it for years now.
I hear you. I'm 60-40 in favor of using.
@wsmwannabe ED? I've heard about the opposite. If I give it a go, I'll go with ace. As for the rest side effects. It's not something that I see myself running frequently. And in the end, don't we all react differently?
From what I've seen, most people have more sides at around week 5. Thus, since it would be my first time, I'd prefer to use a rather low dose for a short period of time.
@Test_Subject Not better. Doing it mostly out of curiosity. Was wondering how I'd react to it for years now.
I hear you. I'm 60-40 in favor of using.
Isosceles Gangster
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you would think you would want to use acetate, wouldn't you? incase it turns you into a cray cray or makes you depressed or some shit. I would say if your single and relatively stable mentally, give it a shot.
wsmwannabe
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I do not get ED from tren, tren has the opposite effect on me. But it seems there are some guys that get tren dick for months or years. I am not saying you will get it, but it is certainly a possibility.
You also just glanced over the fact I also mentioned neuro and cardio toxicity. I don't care what you put in your body, but you should make sure you understand all of the possible issues that could arise if you choose to use tren. The side effects are not trivial
Isosceles Gangster
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Yeah dude, even on NPP, i have some caber, p5p and carderine on hand to help with 19nor effects
I'm in an open relationship and one of the women that I'm dating is masochistic. Might help, right?
Some people get deca dick. I didn't have that problem. Having issues for months or years sounds like they didn't treat the issue properly, or made it worse by trying to fix it poorly, right?
Didn't glance over it. Question is, how much damage would it do for this dosage and this period of time? And especially long term.
Isosceles Gangster
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well in that case get you tren base and some halotestin to snort
wsmwannabe
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Idk, I have never had ED issues except when my E2 gets too high, but that is an easy fix. I do not know what those people did to try to fix it or treat it. I think some people just react poorly and shouldn't mess with it. But it is a wild assumption to make to pretend to know what these people with ED did to try to fix it, or to assume they treated it poorly/incorrectly.
As for your second question, it is literally impossible to know without trying it. There are too many factors and unknowns that go into it to know how much damage tren will cause. Obviously the lower the dosage and shorter duration, the lower the risk. But tren is known to physically alter your brain and your nervous system as well as your heart. Not to mention liver toxicity.
My whole reason for being so adamant about you concerning yourself with these side effects is that they are very real. IF you decide that the risk is worth the reward, then go for it. But, depending on your goals, there are other compounds out there that are far less toxic and could get you the results you're looking for.
I personally know one or two guys that have fried theirs brains and fucked up their hearts by abusing tren.
Just looking out for you. But I won't shit on you if you decide to use it responsibly.
earth2mondo
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I just can’t shake the feeling that Trennoia (tren paranoia and mood swings) are caused by the ravenous appetite and increased adrenaline systems. It’s hard to out eat the drug at high enough doses and for me sometimes impossible. When I am hungry I get anxious and feel very weird, even off of Tren.
If you decide to give it a go Test/Tren/Mast is a great combo and you'll want to poke women you've never been attracted to before.
Isosceles Gangster
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I'd tap that and I'm not even on Tren.
A lot of good points and suggestions already made. Go with Tren a. I like that you’re not planning on going crazy with the dosage. 25-50mg eod or 100-200 a week is a good dose.
I will say if people start telling you you’re acting different or if you feel like other people are acting different then it’s a good sign to drop it.
I will say if people start telling you you’re acting different or if you feel like other people are acting different then it’s a good sign to drop it.
I've done Tren A & E, many times, all different doses, with high test, low test, and a range of other compounds. If you react well to other compounds, in terms of your mental control, you'll probably be just fine with tren as long as you don't go high dose. If your mental control or aggression are an issue with other compounds than Tren is going to be bad for you. It is the worst in terms of mental control, irritability, aggression, jealousy, etc...
I recently ran a 50 MG's Tren A everyday with test propionate 25 MG's everyday, and winstrol injectable 25 MG's everyday, and Masteron prop 75 MG's everyday, and saw fantastic results. Unlike my higher tren with higher test cycles, I had absolutely ZERO ED issue's. In fact, it was just the opposite. I felt incredible. Got some really nice "recomp", lost BF and got hard and vascular. I'm sitting right at 10% BF and feel great. Tren always works great for me. But as you increase the dose, you will get more results (up to a point), but the side's will increase substantially. Below 350 MG's a week, I get very light night sweats but can sleep great. When I took 500 MG's + a week I didn't sleep for shit and the night sweats were brutal along with a foul body odor my wife absolutely hated. As other's stated, go with Tren Ace. You can get away with EOD shots. Back fill "slin pins" and it's no big deal to pin daily even. It opens up virtually every muscle on your body leaving minimal scar tissue or pain. I pin my chest, all three shoulder heads, quads, calves, traps, lats, even my forearms (brachialis) with never an issue. No nerve hits either. I rarely EVER use a 21 - 23 gage 1.5" 3CC pin anymore. I always back fill slin pins and shoot 1CC at a time. Sure it takes a little longer, but it's worth the extra time. Try it once and you'll never pin any other way. Trust me.
I recently ran a 50 MG's Tren A everyday with test propionate 25 MG's everyday, and winstrol injectable 25 MG's everyday, and Masteron prop 75 MG's everyday, and saw fantastic results. Unlike my higher tren with higher test cycles, I had absolutely ZERO ED issue's. In fact, it was just the opposite. I felt incredible. Got some really nice "recomp", lost BF and got hard and vascular. I'm sitting right at 10% BF and feel great. Tren always works great for me. But as you increase the dose, you will get more results (up to a point), but the side's will increase substantially. Below 350 MG's a week, I get very light night sweats but can sleep great. When I took 500 MG's + a week I didn't sleep for shit and the night sweats were brutal along with a foul body odor my wife absolutely hated. As other's stated, go with Tren Ace. You can get away with EOD shots. Back fill "slin pins" and it's no big deal to pin daily even. It opens up virtually every muscle on your body leaving minimal scar tissue or pain. I pin my chest, all three shoulder heads, quads, calves, traps, lats, even my forearms (brachialis) with never an issue. No nerve hits either. I rarely EVER use a 21 - 23 gage 1.5" 3CC pin anymore. I always back fill slin pins and shoot 1CC at a time. Sure it takes a little longer, but it's worth the extra time. Try it once and you'll never pin any other way. Trust me.
In all seriousness, just adding a bit of cialis and being on test alone, is sometimes rising my libido to the point of annoyance. Can't sleep due to erections. Even masturbation doesn't do much, lol.
Thinking of going for 100mg at first with tren A and see how I react to it. Then maybe bump it to 125-150.
@DRUG350 I use 23g to draw and 25g to pin. I'd rotate between thighs and shoulders. Should be fine.
Thanks for the responses everyone.
fooba
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start off low if you do try it. i told myself that id never run it again after my first run with it, but i got it reshipped so i used it again.
its not worth the loss of sleep. i got really bad acid reflux during my first run with tren and it made me lose my appetite (may be good if youre using tren for a cut).
its not worth the loss of sleep. i got really bad acid reflux during my first run with tren and it made me lose my appetite (may be good if youre using tren for a cut).
Ive had a good experience with tren e. But i wouldn't recommend. Ill give ace a go at a later point. But the warning i give is based on how much I love the stuff. You may tolerate it. You may like it. You may push it. Who knows. All i can say is that its fucking horrible for you but you wont care.
