Third Cycle Advice Appreciated - Thanks Guys

[Smguy4u]

First, I'm a 46 year old guy that's been pretty active in Spartan and Tough Mudder events and have just finished rehabbing an attachment point tear in my groin. I've put on about 20# of fat I want to get rid of as well as add muscle back. I'm going to be working with a nutritionist so diet will be clean and high protein. Workout will be with a trainer 5x week with muscle gain as a focus as well as late cycle cardio. I'm healthy otherwise and have run two previous cycles of Test E/P and Tren with good results. I quit Tren when I needed cardio and with runs coming up, I'm leaving it off this cycle.

I'm considering the following cycle and would appreciate feedback and your guys' expertise:
16 wk.
350mg Test P/Week EOD
250mg Test E/Week Once a week (or 2x?)
600mg EQ/Week EOD
3.50mg/Week Anastrozole
625mcg/Week HCG
I had considered adding a B12 but am having a tough time finding that so will probably pass.
Thanks guys, I appreciate the constructive advice in these forums.

 

[tubesox]

So you mean to tell me you're planning on pinning 3.5 ml of test p alone every other day? Not even including probably the 3 ml of bold u eod as well? This in my honest opinion doesnt sound to good my friend.... Those volumes of oil will only fit into your glutes or quads in one pin which im hoping you're not planning on doing, esp when pins are eod

 

[dajr225]

He probably means 100 mg eod on the prop. The wordings a little wrong, but that definitely makes more sense.

 

[Smguy4u]

Thanks dajr225, its 350mg weekly, pinned EOD. So, 1ml eod. The EQ is approx. 1.75ml eod to total 600ml weekly.

 

[Northern Nutrition]

EQ is a long ester. No need for EOD.

Also no need for .5mg ED with your Adex. You may crash with that amount and frequency. Be careful. Back it off to EOD.

I assume your test prop is used up front for 4 wks? if so, thats fine. But with this cycle i would prefer to add it at the end to finish the cycle in order to begin recovery much sooner.

SERM's for PCT?

 

[Smguy4u]

Thanks Northern Nutrition. My thought was to do the adex .5EOD to = 3.5/week, are you suggesting lower dosing on that? I have a bunch of Test P and that's the reason I'm running it through the cycle and since I'm pinning EOD, I figured I'd just mix the EQ with that, would you suggest doing 300mg 2x a week instead? Just trying to avoid another pin on an off day. The Test E is because I have it and ran it during my first two cycles to just stay level. I don't know why but I get much better results running Test P for a cycle than just running E or C, I am not opposed to pinning so it isn't a big deal that way for me. I have a good handle on PCT, that's the one part I'm very comfortable with.

 

[Northern Nutrition]

Every day AI protocol is .5mg x 7 = 3.5g. Every other day AI protocol is .5 x 3.5 = 1.75g.

Which of the above are you doing?

And yes i would run your EQ twice per wk. Its a long ester and if you pin it EOD you will spool up more EQ than what you think. I dont have the formula off hand but it builds up EOD because of the long ester.

If you dont mind, post your planned PCT so i can have a peek at it. Thanks.

 

[Smguy4u]

Damn it math is hard! That's why I turn to you guys.... I'm thinking .5eod for the adex. Good tip for the EQ, I'll just convert to 2x per week on that.

For PCT I use a stack that I've used the first two cycles from a trusted source. It's:
Weeks 1-4- 40 mg GP Nolva per day
Weeks 1-4 100mg GP Clomiphene per day
Weeks 1-5 1mg GP Anastrozole per day
Week 1- 4,500 iu HCG
Week 2- 3,000 iu HCG
Week 3- 1,500 iu HCG

My numbers have come back strong and I haven't had any adverse sides with it. I'm certainly open to suggestion though. I found that using HCG throughout cycle gives me a good start also.

While I have you, what's your thought on B12 inj? I haven't included that in the past and am having trouble finding a source for it (not trolling for one here) but wondered if it's worth working a little harder to find it.

 

[tubesox]

A lot of guys will tell you 100 mg clomid is overkill, but guess what this guy wont...i prefer 100/100/50/50 /25/25 myself

 

[tubesox]

Your pct looks good, just a little miscommunication ealier... Otherwise i like it. Good luck dude and many gains to ya.