TNE in oil.

[Leancuisine]

GOD FUCKING DAMNIT.

First TNE I made crashed. Had to dilute to 60mg/ml.

Now I thought I had a fool proof recipe for TNE using PS80. No BUENO. Shit was jamming up my filter. Goddamnit.

Got another 20 grams to fuck around with.... hopefully this next go around works better.

I did 3% PS80, 2% BA, 18% BB rest GSO.

I tried some Mast P I made with EO. Left a funny taste in my mouth but overall no issues. Maybe my body got used to it? Or it could have been something completely unrelated at the time.


Going to try TNE with no fucking oil. All EO. 25% BB, 2% BA, 5% PS80.


If anyone has any input, much appreciated. If not.... I WILL HAVE A RECIPE BY TONIGHT!!! I will also crush up my next batch.

 

[Leancuisine]

Just gonna call that batch a loss

TNE or... 2 day old watered down coffee?

First one to get it right wins this!

 

[ickyrica]

Tne

2% ba
40% bb
3% gu
Remainder is your carrier of choice. Mct works well.


Trne

Same as above but adjust gu to 5%

 

[Leancuisine]

Tne

2% ba
40% bb
3% gu
Remainder is your carrier of choice. Mct works well.


Trne

Same as above but adjust gu to 5%

I don't have guac. Trying to stay away from it. 1.) smell. 2.) kidney necrosis.

I posted some studies in the brewporn. Did some more reading I guess the medical community was trying to ban guac because of its toxicity.

I'm doing 100% EO.

 

[XmadXscientist]

If using no guaiacol I would recommend
3%BA (doubles as solvent)
25-40%BB (kwan gets 75 to hold with, I can't)
EO for carrier

I would try for 75mg/ml, I've gotten 100 to hold but only half the vials and eventually they crash after a couple weeks. Heating it is no biggie if it's just for yourself.

Start by mixing your BA, BB and carrier together. Then add 1/4 to your beaker with raws. Heat it up to like 300-350 then add another 1/4 of your mix every 15-20 minutes. Really mix it up and heat it like crazy. For whatever reason bases need lots of heat and time.

 

[Leancuisine]

If using no guaiacol I would recommend
3%BA (doubles as solvent)
25-40%BB (kwan gets 75 to hold with, I can't)
EO for carrier

I would try for 75mg/ml, I've gotten 100 to hold but only half the vials and eventually they crash after a couple weeks. Heating it is no biggie if it's just for yourself.

Start by mixing your BA, BB and carrier together. Then add 1/4 to your beaker with raws. Heat it up to like 300-350 then add another 1/4 of your mix every 15-20 minutes. Really mix it up and heat it like crazy. For whatever reason bases need lots of heat and time.

Yes that worked very well last time. Totally forgot about it and just dumped it all in gung ho style. Yeah just diluted it with EO to 75mg/ml and reheating. I'm about to pin soon and hit the gym in an hour.

 

[XmadXscientist]

Yes that worked very well last time. Totally forgot about it and just dumped it all in gung ho style. Yeah just diluted it with EO to 75mg/ml and reheating. I'm about to pin soon and hit the gym in an hour.

If you have a pressure cooker throw the vials in there and bring it up to temp for 5-10 minutes, the pressure seems to help push it into solution for awhile.

 

[Leancuisine]

On the left - 10ml 100mg/ml TNE
5% BA, 40% BB 5% PS80, EO

Right - same but no PS80.

Far right - flowers that were deceivingly shaped like a cake.... some people just want to watch the world burn

 

[notanothersnake]

I get 60mg/ml to hold without guaiacol... Wats the problem? Lol jk. Hit me for some mig brother. Makes things easier

 

[Leancuisine]

Hour later.

Both are still holding. Didn't want to bottle it up and have it crash on me again.
Can't use it until Wednesday, so I'll have until then to see if it still holds.

 

[Leancuisine]

I may have found the recipe.... I'll update later tonight. If you guys want time stamps or something I'll do that. That is if it ends up holding.

 

[XmadXscientist]

I've had them hold for 2 weeks then crash

 

[master.on]

GOD FUCKING DAMNIT.

First TNE I made crashed. Had to dilute to 60mg/ml.

Now I thought I had a fool proof recipe for TNE using PS80. No BUENO. Shit was jamming up my filter. Goddamnit.

Got another 20 grams to fuck around with.... hopefully this next go around works better.

I did 3% PS80, 2% BA, 18% BB rest GSO.

I tried some Mast P I made with EO. Left a funny taste in my mouth but overall no issues. Maybe my body got used to it? Or it could have been something completely unrelated at the time.


Going to try TNE with no fucking oil. All EO. 25% BB, 2% BA, 5% PS80.


If anyone has any input, much appreciated. If not.... I WILL HAVE A RECIPE BY TONIGHT!!! I will also crush up my next batch.

Not oil
but 39.8 mg/ml TestNE water-based SOLUTION (not suspension) can be made
Patent WO1990001320A1 - Water soluble branched beta cyclodextrin steroid complex

i.e. the required 2HPBCD can be purchased here
(2-Hydroxypropyl)-Beta-Cyclodextrin (HPBCD), 99.5% min., 25 grams
25 g $16.95

Being water-based should be much less painful than oil, IMO.

 

[Leancuisine]

Not oil
but 39.8 mg/ml TestNE water-based SOLUTION (not suspension) can be made
Patent WO1990001320A1 - Water soluble branched beta cyclodextrin steroid complex

i.e. the required 2HPBCD can be purchased here
(2-Hydroxypropyl)-Beta-Cyclodextrin (HPBCD), 99.5% min., 25 grams
25 g $16.95

Being water-based should be much less painful than oil, IMO.

I can make it in water. But 40mg would require a lot of CC's.

 

[BuryMeBig]

I've got a recipe for 100mg TNE in oil that never crashes, pip free. I'll post it here k. I've got tons of recipes that I will share with the community now that I don't care anymore haha. All tested and true. When I get home I'll post it all up.

 

[master.on]

I can make it in water. But 40mg would require a lot of CC's.

1 What TNE dosages you use?
2 Why use TNE instead of esters?

 

[Leancuisine]

1 What TNE dosages you use?
2 Why use TNE instead of esters?

Was just messing around with new things. Wanted to use it as preworkout. I'm finding that sticking to orals is easier...

I wanted to do 100mg. I shot 120mg once and it didn't do anything. Lots of people here were telling me 200-300 is the dose I would need. Bit high for me.

At this point I'm just trying to make it work.

 

[Leancuisine]

I've got a recipe for 100mg TNE in oil that never crashes, pip free. I'll post it here k. I've got tons of recipes that I will share with the community now that I don't care anymore haha. All tested and true. When I get home I'll post it all up.

That would be awesome!! No esters are pretty cheap, so I'm not too worried about blowing through it all... but still it would be nice to finally get a good batch! Thanks brother. I, and I know a lot of others, will really appreciate this! You should post it the recipes in the brewporn, or even create your own thread and maybe it can be made a sticky.

 

[master.on]

Was just messing around with new things. Wanted to use it as preworkout. I'm finding that sticking to orals is easier...

I wanted to do 100mg. I shot 120mg once and it didn't do anything. Lots of people here were telling me 200-300 is the dose I would need. Bit high for me.

At this point I'm just trying to make it work.

Do you think/have read that TNE has absorption issues if not properly formulated?

Supposing you inject it 5 days a week
120 mg x 5 = 600 mg
While not multigram megadosing, 600 mg would at least make you feel something from it.

200 mg x 5 = 1 grams per week
300 mg x 5 = 1.5 g/w

OTOH I've heard that unless it's injected in a vein (water-based please), IM TNE ain't as fast-release as you'd want.

 

[Leancuisine]

Do you think/have read that TNE has absorption issues if not properly formulated?

Supposing you inject it 5 days a week
120 mg x 5 = 600 mg
While not multigram megadosing, 600 mg would at least make you feel something from it.

200 mg x 5 = 1 grams per week
300 mg x 5 = 1.5 g/w

OTOH I've heard that unless it's injected in a vein (water-based please), IM TNE ain't as fast-release as you'd want.

I'm not 100% sure, but the half life is only 7hours or less. So weekly doses wouldn't matter, since it will never build up in your system if doubt ED or EOD injections.